103: Fundraising for the Flint Town K-9 Unit

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hey folks welcome back to another episode of three cups talk this

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oh

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is shawn

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yeah

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i'm joined today

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yes

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by my

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oh

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thrifty

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yeah

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norwegian friend scott

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oh

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thorson

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uh

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um and

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he's over

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rich

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there

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that's

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chris

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good

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he's over there squeezing quarters

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uh

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getting two names

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i'm

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on a

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opening

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nickel

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i'm opening a store called that as soon as

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yi

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i retire

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the thrifty

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it's goin

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nor

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to sell

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region

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funded

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yeah

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what do you want to sell

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it's going to be

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m

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it's going to be in michigan

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it's

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which

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a vapeshopsor

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is where

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it's

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it

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a vapesho

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is going

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yeah

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to be in michigan in like

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yes

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union pier in that whole area where there it's like

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right

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you know

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right

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like that altho

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i

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liberals

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sell all the local wines

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right

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that

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right right

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you

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right

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know

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right in wood carvings with a chain

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get

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saw

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wide vape

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yeah

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and water there

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and

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you

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yeah

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go

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we're

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that's

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going

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what i do my scrimshaw my

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yeah

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scrimshaw

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right right

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is

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right right right right right and you provide safe spaces for everyone

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i've heard many

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everyone

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reasons

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that needs a safe space

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everyone

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in the united states

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they

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everyone

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actually face of the indian that you have in front of your store shawn is just carved

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actually

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out

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and actually but it happened tough so i came in to shore that

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in

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immediately

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a kilt

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re they'd

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yah

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immediately recognize in the store the thrifty orwegian that i didn't belong there and that would

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yeah

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be the only place the only person that didn't have a safe space when we went an

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yeah

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it's

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yeah

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sorry dude

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i

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it's the rules up here

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yeah

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it's per all this stuff

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oh

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you know these people

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yeah

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whatever

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yeah it's very different

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anyway

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up here yeah

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yeah

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you know it's really fun guys moving moving is a lot of fun you know

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yeah

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doing across country

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oh

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move

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i

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chris

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bet

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and i can talk about

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oh

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that it's really even more fun being married while you

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yeah

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move that's

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m

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way

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but

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better

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but

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way

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yeah

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three

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cool

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times

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way

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one year

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cooler

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is a

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my

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little much bro you're

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ship

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making

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hunter

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it you're

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gather

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making

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ah

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it like a

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hunter

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hobby

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gather i'm not going

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yeah

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to get into the whole

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yeah

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idea the hunter gatherer thing because it's really going to probably piss a lot of

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m

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people off but the bottom line is is that

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oh

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you know there's a reason that we settle settle down they call it that but

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yeah

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what really really fun what's really major le pro league is having a move three times in about a year

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yeah

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with a married

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it's crazy

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person

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yeah

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bro see

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that's

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you got

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never

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to start making money where you just sell

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you

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it

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know

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and leave all you leave all your ship and then just buy the shell

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yeah

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and fill it withal with new stuff

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i don't

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what

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know if you

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what

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guys

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about

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know

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all

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this

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so

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the furniture

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a new house

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that you went all your

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yeah

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yeah

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rental

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right

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furniture

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right

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does

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right

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that go

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right

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with

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right

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you

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right

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or you have

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you

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to

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know

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did you have to

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t the center at the center is going to hire me to go

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i've

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collect

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got this rennacenter sam that i come down and i just change the spelling of my name

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right

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because it's

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oh

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nd s w and s h

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right

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ou and they still can't keep track of me with their system

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that's

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so

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right

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i've

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like

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got

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six

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like a

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cities

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bunch of

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you can go to

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like

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yeah

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you

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he

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know

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paid

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that

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for it all with

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you

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visa gift cards

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know

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oh

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that

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so it's not track

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the

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i

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able

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problem is is all that black

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yeah

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lack or furniture that we have that

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yeah

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comes in from venom

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right

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because of the supply chain management stuff i'm not

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right

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getting anything

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right

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but the thing that's most effect my son just rolls my son's

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m

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o

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just rolled with it they're like

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o

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whatever that you know as long as they have hockey and things to

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yeah

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do

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m

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and computers they're

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oh

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all good but the other the other guy that's

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ah

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effected in the equation is guy i don't talk about a lot dog my dog

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ah

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is looking at me like are we are we doing this ship again like he's seeing

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what's

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the box

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happening

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as he's figured

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oh

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out i got a

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yeah

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roddy his name's murphy if you don't know who he is we haven't talked about we talked about scott's dogs and chris

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oh

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oh

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obviously being a cane on him talk a little

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yeah

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it about dogs and michigan today but my dogs looking at me like

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m

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and that again i'm too old for this ship because

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oh

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he's ten and he's a roddy's and roddy's

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hm

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usually know check out at nine

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oh

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of course my guys holding on i think he's waiting for the next election just to see how

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he's

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it all

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goin

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turns

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to outlive

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out for

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you

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us

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yeah

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a right he probably will but

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you got that

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he

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dog hot tub he's in

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oh

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all

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yeah

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the time

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he's super smart

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yeah

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why is

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great

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murphy wearing an ascot

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oh

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you know after

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i

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i worked with police dogs for a while i did the total cop

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ah

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thing i stopped hanging around with my dog i was like you're not sorry

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oh

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you're not a cop dog i can't hang around with you

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right

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only be police dogs and you know meeting chris's dogs how friendly they are

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yeah

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and how smart they are i just you know i don't

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m

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know i feel

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yeah

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bad because i kind of put him as like

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oh

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a second tier it's like you're supposed

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oh

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to be working right now aren't you a working breed and he kind of looks to

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right

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me like no

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yeah

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it doesn't work like that you know like

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no

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he didn't

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yeah

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sign

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no

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uh

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that's

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up

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so

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it's

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much

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just like

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i bark

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uh

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stuff that walks

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yeah

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by then you go to work

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i

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ah

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guess it's i guess it's yeah i guess it's preparing me for

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oh

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like when my sons decide now to go in the military become cops i'll be like okay

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m

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yea the dog did this already he decided he was just a house

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ah

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dog and you know things

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yeah

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like that

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oh

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but

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he checked out

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ah yeah

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sor

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but

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you're

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i

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you're a big fan of the domesticated dogs the non police type

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so he

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you're a big you know

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uh yeah

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animal

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well

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lover

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you know i was sharing that lovely story today about my number two german shepherd who decided to shred three plastic trays in his crate in the last

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right

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oh

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two weeks for whatever

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right

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reason so

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right

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yeah re working through that not

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are

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sure

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you to

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what's what's going on

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oh

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i mean maybe i have to change the music

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yeah

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that i leave on for him or

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right

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something when

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right

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i leave maybe needs it like yan something

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a little

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more

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right

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bitchelli

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or like

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or

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a

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something i don't

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yeah

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know

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right

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something

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well

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so

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you know

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i don't

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actually

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know

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put on wagner because they he's a

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oh

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german shepherd you know you're

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oh

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you're starting you're starting

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yeah

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the third

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yeah

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rank

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yeah

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of

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good

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canines

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point

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over there

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good point

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so you know you have a little

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right

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wagner for

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m

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him while he tearing the place up at least it'll piece anonymous

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right

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with the

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oh

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destruction

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yeah

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yeah

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and christopher christopher has always been a dog guy like he is

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uh

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like a very

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m

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like

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well

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his

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m

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today

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m

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dog

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i almost wasn't

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really

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uh

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what

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so my wife takes

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ah

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the

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ah

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older one we have a ten pound ship you know

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ah

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yeah

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she takes them to the vet you know about two weeks

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well

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ago

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she

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three

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hm

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weeks ago

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she po

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and they're like hey she's got

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yeah

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to get some dental work on okay

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ah

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oh

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ever i pick

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yeah

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him up today nine hundred and eighty three dollars for

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oh

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a

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my

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what

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gosh

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teeth cleaning and whatever

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oh

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and the whole

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we

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way home he still going to be giving me

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he's

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like

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only got four teeth

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that's

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right right

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it

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right

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okay

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just give me that paco

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a

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tongue on the

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oh

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way home on like you

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oh

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i'm

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right

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what

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yea

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right

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and then he's like

[scott]: 5:03

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 5:03

cry and now i'm like

[shaun]: 5:04

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 5:04

really nine had it three bucks did with that but you know

[scott]: 5:07

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 5:07

but they're

[shaun]: 5:08

chris

[scott]: 5:08

just

[chris_sherwin]: 5:08

your

[shaun]: 5:08

has

[chris_sherwin]: 5:08

dogs

[scott]: 5:08

take

[shaun]: 5:08

got

[chris_sherwin]: 5:08

and you love them

[shaun]: 5:09

he's got to make adjustment to the dog's night time device like with the rubber bands and stuff

[scott]: 5:12

yeah

[shaun]: 5:12

like

[scott]: 5:12

see

[shaun]: 5:12

the dog

[scott]: 5:13

pap

[shaun]: 5:13

leaps

[chris_sherwin]: 5:13

okay

[scott]: 5:13

the

[shaun]: 5:13

straighten

[scott]: 5:13

doge

[shaun]: 5:14

his teeth

[scott]: 5:14

pap

[shaun]: 5:15

on do wit he dogs survival with the dog's image

[chris_sherwin]: 5:17

then you got

[shaun]: 5:17

like how the

[chris_sherwin]: 5:18

yeah

[shaun]: 5:18

dog looks good it's cruel

[chris_sherwin]: 5:19

yeah

[shaun]: 5:20

well i'm

[chris_sherwin]: 5:20

but

[shaun]: 5:20

sorry

[chris_sherwin]: 5:20

you

[shaun]: 5:20

to

[chris_sherwin]: 5:20

know

[shaun]: 5:20

hear

[chris_sherwin]: 5:20

what

[shaun]: 5:20

that chris

[chris_sherwin]: 5:21

you love them

[shaun]: 5:21

m scott

[scott]: 5:22

yeah

[shaun]: 5:22

were joking i said you know when we were kids like you hear your grandfather's talk about we

[chris_sherwin]: 5:26

oh

[shaun]: 5:26

were kids when

[scott]: 5:27

yeah

[shaun]: 5:27

i was a kid scott was again

[chris_sherwin]: 5:28

m

[shaun]: 5:28

seven years

[scott]: 5:29

i was

[shaun]: 5:29

younger than

[scott]: 5:29

i was

[shaun]: 5:29

me

[scott]: 5:29

also a kid just after

[shaun]: 5:31

but he

[scott]: 5:31

you

[shaun]: 5:31

wasn't

[chris_sherwin]: 5:31

yeah

[shaun]: 5:32

at the same time i was so this is like just

[scott]: 5:33

yeah

[shaun]: 5:33

a reference point like when dogs gave you trouble back like when my grandfather was a kid

[chris_sherwin]: 5:38

oh

[shaun]: 5:38

they would just take the dog out in the field and shoot it and

[scott]: 5:40

oh

[shaun]: 5:40

i'm like

[chris_sherwin]: 5:40

right

[shaun]: 5:40

well that's a

[william_meyer]: 5:41

yeah

[shaun]: 5:41

felony now you

[scott]: 5:41

hm

[shaun]: 5:42

can't that it's stuff

[scott]: 5:43

yeah

[shaun]: 5:43

i mean dogs dogs in some places down here in solivands island south carolina they actually have a right to vote i mean

[scott]: 5:49

oh

[shaun]: 5:50

can determine the elections down here i mean now i mean it's

[scott]: 5:53

yeah

[shaun]: 5:53

a totally different ball game

[scott]: 5:54

yes

[shaun]: 5:54

but i'm going to tell you probably one of the best things that i ever saw in law enforcement i enjoyed swat i really like it to team work and comeratery

[chris_sherwin]: 6:00

oh

[shaun]: 6:00

but like

[scott]: 6:00

yeah

[shaun]: 6:01

most teams it's a collateral assignment you do it like what

[chris_sherwin]: 6:03

oh

[shaun]: 6:04

once every two weeks you train together

[scott]: 6:05

oh

[shaun]: 6:05

you go to you know call out together things

[scott]: 6:07

yeah

[shaun]: 6:07

like that you know socially you do some things together but a team that's always in tact is a canine team the handler and the

[scott]: 6:12

oh

[shaun]: 6:12

dog are

[chris_sherwin]: 6:13

m

[shaun]: 6:13

huge and you see those folks come

[scott]: 6:15

yeah

[shaun]: 6:15

and i always appreciated them shown

[scott]: 6:16

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 6:16

yeah

[shaun]: 6:17

not just because it was chris

[scott]: 6:18

oh

[shaun]: 6:18

but

[chris_sherwin]: 6:18

oh

[shaun]: 6:18

all canes that i worked with i really liked

[scott]: 6:19

oh

[shaun]: 6:20

by and large the work that they did because

[scott]: 6:21

oh

[shaun]: 6:21

they came there to help you with a lot of different

[chris_sherwin]: 6:23

oh

[shaun]: 6:23

things and when an agency doesn't have dogs

[scott]: 6:25

m

[shaun]: 6:25

there i think at a distinct disadvantage and if

[scott]: 6:28

oh

[shaun]: 6:28

they're not financed

[william_meyer]: 6:29

and

[shaun]: 6:29

properly it's like anything so you got to take great

[chris_sherwin]: 6:32

ah

[shaun]: 6:32

care of a canon and chris

[chris_sherwin]: 6:34

yeah

[shaun]: 6:34

can probably speak the value you know to the value of that taking care of them as well in

[scott]: 6:39

oh

[shaun]: 6:39

some ways you know the dog you wish cops acted like a dog a lot more and like

[chris_sherwin]: 6:44

one

[shaun]: 6:44

a

[scott]: 6:44

h

[shaun]: 6:44

dog

[chris_sherwin]: 6:45

per

[shaun]: 6:45

like

[chris_sherwin]: 6:45

cent

[shaun]: 6:45

at a club

[scott]: 6:45

m

[shaun]: 6:46

i'm talking

[scott]: 6:46

ah

[shaun]: 6:46

like a dog like how dogs come to work and want to work every day you know and i mean they want to come in

[scott]: 6:51

yeah

[shaun]: 6:51

and when the dog doesn't get to commend the dog kind of gets depressed work so like yeah i'm cool i'm getting

[chris_sherwin]: 6:56

all

[shaun]: 6:56

time

[chris_sherwin]: 6:56

right

[shaun]: 6:56

off

[scott]: 6:57

yeah they

[shaun]: 6:57

but

[scott]: 6:57

come in work hard and die early so yeah that's

[shaun]: 7:00

exactly pretty much

[chris_sherwin]: 7:00

and leave

[shaun]: 7:01

yeah

[scott]: 7:01

a

[chris_sherwin]: 7:01

a good corpse

[shaun]: 7:02

that's

[chris_sherwin]: 7:03

we

[scott]: 7:03

oh

[shaun]: 7:04

and the good thing about it is the politicians of the because they don't ask for a pension

[scott]: 7:06

yeah

[shaun]: 7:07

you know

[chris_sherwin]: 7:07

right

[shaun]: 7:07

what i an they're not they

[chris_sherwin]: 7:08

right

[william_meyer]: 7:08

oh

[shaun]: 7:09

buy the dog back for a dollar you know what i

[chris_sherwin]: 7:11

yeah

[shaun]: 7:11

mean is

[scott]: 7:12

yeah

[shaun]: 7:12

a long

[scott]: 7:13

you don't get health you don't get retirement

[chris_sherwin]: 7:14

great

[scott]: 7:14

health care

[william_meyer]: 7:15

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 7:15

you know what's that old thing

[scott]: 7:16

okay

[chris_sherwin]: 7:16

when when an officer is in trouble you call swat when swatitsin trouble they call cane right

[shaun]: 7:21

right

[chris_sherwin]: 7:21

you know

[shaun]: 7:21

right

[chris_sherwin]: 7:22

what i'm saying

[shaun]: 7:22

absolutely

[chris_sherwin]: 7:22

because

[shaun]: 7:23

right

[chris_sherwin]: 7:23

because

[shaun]: 7:23

right

[chris_sherwin]: 7:23

it just

[william_meyer]: 7:23

well

[chris_sherwin]: 7:24

works

[william_meyer]: 7:24

here's my baby

[chris_sherwin]: 7:24

look at that

[shaun]: 7:26

there

[scott]: 7:26

ah

[shaun]: 7:26

is that's a

[chris_sherwin]: 7:27

it's

[shaun]: 7:27

good looking

[chris_sherwin]: 7:27

ten

[shaun]: 7:27

dog

[chris_sherwin]: 7:27

it's a

[shaun]: 7:27

right

[chris_sherwin]: 7:27

pure

[shaun]: 7:28

there

[chris_sherwin]: 7:28

fury

[scott]: 7:28

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 7:28

right there

[shaun]: 7:29

and that leads us into that leads us into

[william_meyer]: 7:31

she's

[shaun]: 7:31

our

[william_meyer]: 7:31

a rescue

[shaun]: 7:32

our guests today bill mayer

[scott]: 7:34

yeah

[shaun]: 7:34

sergeant bill mayer from flint michigan if

[william_meyer]: 7:35

i

[shaun]: 7:35

you

[scott]: 7:36

yeah

[shaun]: 7:36

go back to episode eight when this show

[chris_sherwin]: 7:37

oh

[shaun]: 7:38

is just a

[william_meyer]: 7:38

tom

[shaun]: 7:38

pup bill

[scott]: 7:39

yeah

[shaun]: 7:39

came

[chris_sherwin]: 7:39

wow

[shaun]: 7:40

on and regaled

[william_meyer]: 7:40

you

[shaun]: 7:41

a lot of great stories out of flint and some of the things you know

[scott]: 7:43

oh

[shaun]: 7:44

flint town is what most of our listeners know from netflix in that circumstance er um

[william_meyer]: 7:50

he

[scott]: 7:50

ye

[shaun]: 7:51

bill let us know that it wasn't

[scott]: 7:52

yep

[shaun]: 7:52

really b s it wasn't gazed up for the cameras i mean that's as tough

[william_meyer]: 7:55

not

[shaun]: 7:55

as

[william_meyer]: 7:55

at

[shaun]: 7:55

it

[chris_sherwin]: 7:55

oh

[william_meyer]: 7:55

all

[shaun]: 7:55

was

[scott]: 7:56

yeah

[shaun]: 7:56

and you know

[chris_sherwin]: 7:57

oh

[shaun]: 7:57

one of the things

[scott]: 7:58

yeah

[shaun]: 7:58

that flint has is a canine

[scott]: 7:59

oh

[shaun]: 7:59

program and like everything else

[scott]: 8:01

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 8:01

oh

[shaun]: 8:01

flint particularly as we talked about facing

[scott]: 8:04

oh

[shaun]: 8:04

tough financial times a lot

[chris_sherwin]: 8:06

oh

[shaun]: 8:06

of what they got was through grants and things like that the money is just not there for them any more so we brought him on because he had talked to us about a program that you

[chris_sherwin]: 8:13

m

[shaun]: 8:13

know flint's trying to make their program

[scott]: 8:15

i

[shaun]: 8:16

much more robust and needs the help from all of our listeners

[chris_sherwin]: 8:18

m

[shaun]: 8:18

as well as anybody out there that hears this about making donations to it so bill we appreciate giving you the time and you it about us to get out

[william_meyer]: 8:26

shite

[shaun]: 8:26

to our

[william_meyer]: 8:26

thank

[shaun]: 8:26

people

[william_meyer]: 8:26

you

[chris_sherwin]: 8:26

he

[shaun]: 8:27

and

[chris_sherwin]: 8:27

thanks

[shaun]: 8:27

you

[chris_sherwin]: 8:27

for

[shaun]: 8:27

can

[chris_sherwin]: 8:27

coming back though

[shaun]: 8:27

board thanks

[scott]: 8:28

good

[shaun]: 8:28

for coming

[scott]: 8:28

to see

[shaun]: 8:28

back

[scott]: 8:28

you again

[william_meyer]: 8:29

i'm glad to be here

[chris_sherwin]: 8:29

yeah

[shaun]: 8:30

so

[william_meyer]: 8:30

yeah

[shaun]: 8:30

what you tell us a little bit about what's going on with that and then we'll kind of move on from there

[william_meyer]: 8:36

yeah so city of flint we always

[chris_sherwin]: 8:38

yeah

[william_meyer]: 8:38

had canines all the way up until pretty much

[scott]: 8:41

yeah

[william_meyer]: 8:41

when i retired we were in twenty twelve we were starting to hit

[chris_sherwin]: 8:45

yeah

[william_meyer]: 8:45

kind of a skid

[shaun]: 8:46

ye

[scott]: 8:46

oh

[william_meyer]: 8:46

so when it came on in ninety one we probably always had at least six six dogs

[shaun]: 8:50

wow

[chris_sherwin]: 8:51

m

[william_meyer]: 8:51

six patrol at least one drug dog

[shaun]: 8:55

yeah

[william_meyer]: 8:56

so we had that threw into the two thousands and slowly but surely it just sort of

[shaun]: 9:00

m

[william_meyer]: 9:00

we had a hundred people laid off in two thousand eight so we went from two hunder an eighty officers down to like one eighty

[chris_sherwin]: 9:07

yeah

[william_meyer]: 9:07

and then they gave a bunch of it out so it dropped us down about one thirty with officers within a year

[shaun]: 9:12

m

[chris_sherwin]: 9:12

m

[william_meyer]: 9:13

and so our kanidunant of course would have to i go away because it just it costs too much getting the

[scott]: 9:18

oh

[william_meyer]: 9:18

dogs cost too

[chris_sherwin]: 9:19

m

[william_meyer]: 9:19

much and we just didn't have

[scott]: 9:21

ah

[william_meyer]: 9:21

the general fund for the city just wasn't prepared

[chris_sherwin]: 9:24

m

[william_meyer]: 9:24

to pay that kind of money

[scott]: 9:25

oh

[william_meyer]: 9:26

so we i retired they started

[chris_sherwin]: 9:29

what

[william_meyer]: 9:29

to get a few dogs they had a dog on each shift and we normally ran four shift when we did eight hours but with twelve

[scott]: 9:36

a

[william_meyer]: 9:36

they

[scott]: 9:37

ah

[william_meyer]: 9:37

would at least have a dog every single day so every ship would have a dog so you got at least four dogs working all the time which was great for him because it was a lot of crime and there wasn't a lot of officers left i mean they're down to like

[shaun]: 9:49

ah

[william_meyer]: 9:49

ninety

[chris_sherwin]: 9:49

m

[william_meyer]: 9:49

officers

[scott]: 9:50

ah

[william_meyer]: 9:50

right now from

[shaun]: 9:51

m

[william_meyer]: 9:51

three twenty when i came on to ninety

[scott]: 9:53

cheese

[william_meyer]: 9:53

around ninety right

[scott]: 9:54

oh

[william_meyer]: 9:54

now

[shaun]: 9:54

yeah

[william_meyer]: 9:55

so the kind i knew in it we have a new a new mayor took over a couple of years ago his name is mayor

[chris_sherwin]: 10:02

ah

[william_meyer]: 10:02

sheldon neelie

[chris_sherwin]: 10:03

oh

[william_meyer]: 10:04

i knew him really well i had worked with him real close

[chris_sherwin]: 10:06

i

[william_meyer]: 10:06

when he was a count i mean because i was in charge of a task force on the south name and sheldon were pretty close

[shaun]: 10:12

oh

[william_meyer]: 10:12

with that he brought in a really really good chief his name is carron screen me and him used to play out hooped together he came he played hoop

[shaun]: 10:21

yeah

[william_meyer]: 10:21

at central central michigan and he was a lieutenant out of genessee county was a chief at mount morris while he took over the chief's job in flint he's always lived in flint loved flint

[shaun]: 10:31

yea

[william_meyer]: 10:31

well the first thing he wanted to do was

[shaun]: 10:33

yeah

[william_meyer]: 10:33

he brought in buddy is from the county

[shaun]: 10:35

yeah

[william_meyer]: 10:36

his name is jeff and cliff so he's the deputy chief and just has really really

[shaun]: 10:41

m

[william_meyer]: 10:41

done a great job with a canine unit we have ten dogs right now

[shaun]: 10:45

oh wow

[william_meyer]: 10:45

five patrol guards

[chris_sherwin]: 10:46

wow

[shaun]: 10:47

yes

[scott]: 10:47

m

[william_meyer]: 10:48

two

[scott]: 10:49

oh

[william_meyer]: 10:49

we have five patrol three drug and two bob

[scott]: 10:53

yeah

[shaun]: 10:53

m

[william_meyer]: 10:53

so ten dogs working all the time it really really helps becustyou

[scott]: 10:58

oh

[william_meyer]: 10:58

know we we need a lot tracking dogs a lot of drug dogs

[scott]: 11:01

m

[william_meyer]: 11:01

so it really really helps having a lot of those resources available to everybody but the city of flint is

[chris_sherwin]: 11:10

oh

[william_meyer]: 11:11

we've always been

[scott]: 11:12

m

[william_meyer]: 11:12

kind of strapped especially the past ten fifteen years especially since g m started slowly moving out so they primarily try to get everything through grants well normally grant are to run out well

[shaun]: 11:25

yeah

[william_meyer]: 11:25

the way flint stays above board is through donations

[shaun]: 11:28

m

[william_meyer]: 11:28

we have the mot foundation which is one of the biggest foundations in the nation they

[shaun]: 11:32

m

[william_meyer]: 11:33

provide millions all over michigan

[shaun]: 11:35

oh

[william_meyer]: 11:35

hundreds millions and they always help out the police department when they can but when all that runs out we have to

[shaun]: 11:43

m

[william_meyer]: 11:43

keep the unit going so jeff and cliff has started a

[scott]: 11:48

my

[william_meyer]: 11:48

little thing where he's selling t shirts selling cups

[shaun]: 11:51

oh

[scott]: 11:51

yah

[william_meyer]: 11:51

i bought one of the coffee cups really cool is the flip police with the you know with our

[shaun]: 11:56

oh

[william_meyer]: 11:56

symbol

[scott]: 11:56

m

[william_meyer]: 11:57

on it which is the symbol inside

[shaun]: 11:58

yes

[william_meyer]: 11:58

here

[scott]: 11:59

m

[chris_sherwin]: 11:59

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:00

what we had for our simple for the whatever call on de lapels

[chris_sherwin]: 12:05

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:06

so

[shaun]: 12:06

hm

[william_meyer]: 12:08

we we started

[scott]: 12:09

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:10

they started doing that started making a little bit of money with thad trying to bring in some money for donations

[scott]: 12:14

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:14

and when i saw my sister actually works for the city

[shaun]: 12:16

ye

[william_meyer]: 12:16

of flint she does their flat

[scott]: 12:18

my

[william_meyer]: 12:18

cameras

[scott]: 12:18

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:19

and

[shaun]: 12:19

yes

[william_meyer]: 12:19

things like that for security

[scott]: 12:21

m

[william_meyer]: 12:22

uhsurveylance of different locations in the city of lint and she told me about it and i was like i'm going to buy one and i bought it

[shaun]: 12:28

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:29

twenty bucks go straight towards the canon unit and so once i got and i was like man i gonna put it on facebook and instagram and then i had a whole bunch of buddies that were like oh man i want this

[shaun]: 12:40

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:40

and

[scott]: 12:40

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:40

one of them was scott scott one at once so i

[scott]: 12:42

all

[william_meyer]: 12:42

got

[scott]: 12:42

right

[william_meyer]: 12:42

scott on

[scott]: 12:43

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:43

so it was it's

[shaun]: 12:44

okay

[chris_sherwin]: 12:44

m

[william_meyer]: 12:45

slowly sort of thing take it off and then

[chris_sherwin]: 12:47

right

[shaun]: 12:47

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:47

i talked to my

[scott]: 12:48

oh

[william_meyer]: 12:48

sister i asked her i said you need to set me up

[scott]: 12:50

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:50

some something

[scott]: 12:50

m

[chris_sherwin]: 12:50

m

[william_meyer]: 12:50

where i can

[scott]: 12:51

ah

[william_meyer]: 12:51

send everybody to a little you know a little website

[scott]: 12:54

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:54

so they can go to it and purchase it on their own so

[scott]: 12:56

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:57

that's

[chris_sherwin]: 12:57

m

[william_meyer]: 12:57

in the word right now

[scott]: 12:58

yeah

[william_meyer]: 12:59

but right now the deputy chief and clif he said that he'll just take all

[shaun]: 13:03

oh

[william_meyer]: 13:04

and if

[chris_sherwin]: 13:04

m

[william_meyer]: 13:04

anybody wants any he'll take care of it from there because it's pretty much his little baby

[chris_sherwin]: 13:07

oh

[william_meyer]: 13:08

you know running itself

[chris_sherwin]: 13:09

yeah

[scott]: 13:09

oh

[shaun]: 13:09

now the flint officers that have canines they're obviously in their own squads that their

[chris_sherwin]: 13:14

oh

[shaun]: 13:14

take

[scott]: 13:14

oh

[shaun]: 13:14

home cars and then the dogs

[scott]: 13:16

oh

[shaun]: 13:16

go home with them

[william_meyer]: 13:17

that's correct yes

[shaun]: 13:19

so how long is it hitch

[william_meyer]: 13:19

yep

[shaun]: 13:19

for a guy or a gal that's canine

[chris_sherwin]: 13:21

yeah

[shaun]: 13:21

up there

[william_meyer]: 13:23

uh

[shaun]: 13:24

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 13:25

it's a lifetime bro it's a life

[shaun]: 13:27

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 13:27

it's

[scott]: 13:27

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 13:28

a life it's just not years what you

[shaun]: 13:30

well

[chris_sherwin]: 13:30

counted

[shaun]: 13:30

i was

[chris_sherwin]: 13:30

in dog ears

[shaun]: 13:30

you guys always said seven years and i thought is that that dog

[william_meyer]: 13:33

ah

[shaun]: 13:33

year thing

[william_meyer]: 13:33

a

[chris_sherwin]: 13:33

it's

[shaun]: 13:33

like

[chris_sherwin]: 13:33

forty

[shaun]: 13:34

human

[chris_sherwin]: 13:34

nine

[shaun]: 13:34

to

[william_meyer]: 13:34

it's

[chris_sherwin]: 13:34

then

[shaun]: 13:34

dog

[william_meyer]: 13:34

pretty

[scott]: 13:35

yeah

[william_meyer]: 13:36

yeah it's pretty close to that

[shaun]: 13:37

oh

[william_meyer]: 13:38

we have in the city of flint right now because the crime rate is

[shaun]: 13:41

ah

[william_meyer]: 13:41

just out of control

[shaun]: 13:43

is

[william_meyer]: 13:43

this year we're

[scott]: 13:44

m

[william_meyer]: 13:44

a little bit down than we were ester but it's

[shaun]: 13:47

yes

[william_meyer]: 13:48

it's so crazy right now a lot of people are leaving

[shaun]: 13:51

hm

[william_meyer]: 13:51

they're leaving for um flint good

[scott]: 13:54

yeah

[william_meyer]: 13:54

pay there they're leaving for anywhere they can go because i mean city of flint

[chris_sherwin]: 13:58

m

[william_meyer]: 13:58

you're going to work every single day and

[scott]: 14:00

yeah

[william_meyer]: 14:00

and a lot of

[shaun]: 14:01

m

[william_meyer]: 14:01

guys are leaving they're trying to make it where it's a good place

[chris_sherwin]: 14:05

m

[william_meyer]: 14:05

to stay they raised the pay up

[scott]: 14:07

sure

[shaun]: 14:07

hm

[william_meyer]: 14:07

they raise their pay up to twenty nine fifty after i think ten years

[shaun]: 14:11

oh

[william_meyer]: 14:11

which was my pay after twenty years as a sergeant

[shaun]: 14:14

right

[william_meyer]: 14:14

so

[scott]: 14:14

yeah

[shaun]: 14:14

right right

[william_meyer]: 14:15

you know they're finally starting to increase pay

[scott]: 14:17

right

[chris_sherwin]: 14:17

m

[william_meyer]: 14:17

for everybody

[shaun]: 14:17

oh

[william_meyer]: 14:18

we don't we don't believe in there's no contracts in flint

[shaun]: 14:21

yeah

[scott]: 14:21

no

[william_meyer]: 14:21

right and in twenty one years we had three

[chris_sherwin]: 14:23

m

[william_meyer]: 14:23

contract

[shaun]: 14:24

right

[william_meyer]: 14:24

i went ten years and eight years without a contract

[chris_sherwin]: 14:26

oh how

[william_meyer]: 14:26

so

[scott]: 14:27

wow

[shaun]: 14:27

well

[william_meyer]: 14:27

there's no such thing as

[shaun]: 14:28

yeah

[william_meyer]: 14:28

you're working under a contract you're always working under nothing until the next contract and

[chris_sherwin]: 14:33

yeah

[william_meyer]: 14:33

that one

[shaun]: 14:34

and

[william_meyer]: 14:34

to

[shaun]: 14:34

then

[william_meyer]: 14:34

back

[scott]: 14:34

you work

[william_meyer]: 14:34

cell

[shaun]: 14:34

that

[scott]: 14:34

with

[shaun]: 14:35

expired

[scott]: 14:35

nothing

[william_meyer]: 14:35

with

[scott]: 14:35

right

[shaun]: 14:35

and

[william_meyer]: 14:35

ready

[shaun]: 14:35

then you're

[scott]: 14:36

right

[shaun]: 14:36

under that right

[scott]: 14:36

yeah

[shaun]: 14:37

now

[william_meyer]: 14:37

all right

[shaun]: 14:37

you know canon is one of

[chris_sherwin]: 14:38

oh

[shaun]: 14:38

the things that you know when i did recruiting back when

[chris_sherwin]: 14:40

oh

[shaun]: 14:41

i worked back with christ in scott one of the first things everyone

[william_meyer]: 14:45

yeah

[shaun]: 14:45

males females

[scott]: 14:46

ah

[shaun]: 14:46

i want

[chris_sherwin]: 14:46

oh

[shaun]: 14:46

to be canon i

[scott]: 14:47

ah

[shaun]: 14:47

want to be can they were fascinated

[william_meyer]: 14:48

yeah

[shaun]: 14:48

by the can work there like

[chris_sherwin]: 14:49

ah

[shaun]: 14:49

everybody like what about swat

[william_meyer]: 14:50

yeah

[shaun]: 14:50

you know sat was nothing compared to canon

[chris_sherwin]: 14:52

oh

[shaun]: 14:52

and like everybody wanted a part of that so you can see where it's an incentive for a lot of people to stay on the job ticularly like you also want the dog to work i mean a lot of the handlers

[chris_sherwin]: 15:00

yeah

[shaun]: 15:00

are like

[william_meyer]: 15:01

right

[shaun]: 15:01

my dog is not getting any action so i don't know how good he is on you know

[chris_sherwin]: 15:04

ah

[shaun]: 15:05

does michigan require a certification for a canon like illinois went to that south

[william_meyer]: 15:09

but yeah

[shaun]: 15:09

liner that

[william_meyer]: 15:10

they had on i know one of our naperville guys goes up

[shaun]: 15:12

yeah

[william_meyer]: 15:12

to to michigan he's been up there and he had to keep his mouth shut about how much he makes compared to michigan money

[shaun]: 15:18

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 15:18

right

[shaun]: 15:18

right

[william_meyer]: 15:18

because it's about

[shaun]: 15:19

right

[william_meyer]: 15:19

half

[shaun]: 15:19

right

[chris_sherwin]: 15:19

a

[shaun]: 15:19

right

[william_meyer]: 15:20

its

[shaun]: 15:20

right

[william_meyer]: 15:20

ah

[shaun]: 15:20

right

[william_meyer]: 15:21

so you know michigan makes

[chris_sherwin]: 15:23

m

[shaun]: 15:23

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:23

but yeah there certifications i believe every tuesday of every

[shaun]: 15:26

yeah

[william_meyer]: 15:27

month they all get together the

[shaun]: 15:28

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:28

whole south east michigan

[chris_sherwin]: 15:30

m

[scott]: 15:30

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:30

gets together with all their canines

[scott]: 15:32

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:32

it does different training

[shaun]: 15:33

i

[william_meyer]: 15:33

and things like that but

[shaun]: 15:34

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:35

uh

[scott]: 15:35

m my

[william_meyer]: 15:35

yeah it's

[chris_sherwin]: 15:36

m

[shaun]: 15:36

m

[william_meyer]: 15:37

it's helping

[scott]: 15:38

m

[william_meyer]: 15:38

so in the city of flint

[chris_sherwin]: 15:39

yeah

[william_meyer]: 15:40

every single shift you're going to have

[scott]: 15:42

m

[william_meyer]: 15:43

people running from cars yo're gonna people you know

[chris_sherwin]: 15:45

m

[scott]: 15:45

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:46

there's probably at

[shaun]: 15:47

yeah

[william_meyer]: 15:47

least you know

[chris_sherwin]: 15:48

m

[william_meyer]: 15:48

shooting a day

[chris_sherwin]: 15:49

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:50

stabbing every other day last year we had sixty seven homicides and we had two hundred

[chris_sherwin]: 15:54

yah

[william_meyer]: 15:55

and fifty non fatal shoot ings

[shaun]: 15:56

yeah there you go

[william_meyer]: 15:57

plus we had a hundred

[scott]: 15:58

yep

[william_meyer]: 15:58

over a

[shaun]: 15:59

oh

[william_meyer]: 15:59

hundred stabbings that

[scott]: 16:00

no

[william_meyer]: 16:00

were not fatal so

[shaun]: 16:01

hm

[william_meyer]: 16:01

i mean

[chris_sherwin]: 16:02

m

[william_meyer]: 16:02

every day you're going to be somebody's

[scott]: 16:03

yeah

[william_meyer]: 16:03

going to be using a dog

[scott]: 16:04

what's

[shaun]: 16:04

right

[chris_sherwin]: 16:04

yeah

[scott]: 16:04

the population

[william_meyer]: 16:05

so

[scott]: 16:05

there now what's the population

[william_meyer]: 16:07

we're at seventy seven thousand

[shaun]: 16:08

oh wow

[scott]: 16:09

okay well that's

[chris_sherwin]: 16:10

ninety

[scott]: 16:10

a lot

[chris_sherwin]: 16:10

caps

[william_meyer]: 16:10

ah

[scott]: 16:10

for a town

[chris_sherwin]: 16:10

for seventy

[scott]: 16:11

that size

[chris_sherwin]: 16:11

seven thousand people

[shaun]: 16:13

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 16:13

and then if

[scott]: 16:13

yeah

[william_meyer]: 16:13

seventy

[chris_sherwin]: 16:13

you

[william_meyer]: 16:13

seven

[chris_sherwin]: 16:14

and then

[william_meyer]: 16:14

thousand when i turned out it was a hunderd eighty

[chris_sherwin]: 16:16

then you have

[shaun]: 16:17

wow

[chris_sherwin]: 16:17

so you have ninety nine cops and ten dogs that's ten percent of your work force has

[william_meyer]: 16:22

yep

[chris_sherwin]: 16:22

has a canine

[scott]: 16:23

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 16:23

that's that's

[william_meyer]: 16:24

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 16:24

huge

[shaun]: 16:24

ah that's great

[william_meyer]: 16:26

and

[chris_sherwin]: 16:26

that

[scott]: 16:26

but

[william_meyer]: 16:26

that

[chris_sherwin]: 16:26

is

[william_meyer]: 16:26

crazy

[chris_sherwin]: 16:26

huge

[william_meyer]: 16:27

because

[scott]: 16:27

oh

[william_meyer]: 16:27

then they always have a partner right there

[shaun]: 16:29

right

[william_meyer]: 16:29

i mean you know

[scott]: 16:29

yeah

[shaun]: 16:29

right

[william_meyer]: 16:29

how it is chris i mean it's really nice to have a partner right

[shaun]: 16:32

my

[william_meyer]: 16:32

next to you

[chris_sherwin]: 16:32

one hundred

[william_meyer]: 16:33

you know

[chris_sherwin]: 16:33

percent

[william_meyer]: 16:33

you're going to do something

[shaun]: 16:34

m

[william_meyer]: 16:35

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 16:35

yeah

[scott]: 16:35

how are they able to get the funding to get those like obviously was that all grants to get that

[shaun]: 16:41

yeah

[scott]: 16:41

program rolling again like

[shaun]: 16:43

yeah

[scott]: 16:43

where they went

[william_meyer]: 16:44

a lot of a lot

[scott]: 16:45

yeah

[william_meyer]: 16:45

of our dogs are given to us

[shaun]: 16:46

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 16:46

oh

[scott]: 16:46

yeah

[william_meyer]: 16:47

a few years ago back in like

[shaun]: 16:48

oh

[william_meyer]: 16:48

about two thousand fourteen

[chris_sherwin]: 16:50

oh

[william_meyer]: 16:50

we had an officer there and there was a indian reservation we have a bunch of em in again and

[scott]: 16:56

yeah

[william_meyer]: 16:56

they were going to retire one of their dogs

[chris_sherwin]: 16:58

oh

[william_meyer]: 16:58

and

[shaun]: 16:59

my

[william_meyer]: 17:00

they called the city of france said hey if you guys need a

[shaun]: 17:02

oh

[william_meyer]: 17:02

dog we have one

[chris_sherwin]: 17:03

yeah

[william_meyer]: 17:03

really good dog and we took it that you know and

[scott]: 17:05

yeah

[william_meyer]: 17:06

got that and

[chris_sherwin]: 17:06

m

[william_meyer]: 17:07

then you just have pay for you know the training and the upkeep

[shaun]: 17:09

yeah

[william_meyer]: 17:10

of the dog

[chris_sherwin]: 17:10

m

[william_meyer]: 17:10

but

[scott]: 17:10

hm

[william_meyer]: 17:11

a lot of them

[shaun]: 17:11

yeah

[scott]: 17:12

ah

[william_meyer]: 17:13

i mean you guys know how much it's

[chris_sherwin]: 17:14

m

[william_meyer]: 17:14

pretty expensive to get a dog so a lot

[chris_sherwin]: 17:17

yeah

[william_meyer]: 17:17

of them

[chris_sherwin]: 17:17

so

[william_meyer]: 17:17

are

[chris_sherwin]: 17:17

yeah

[william_meyer]: 17:17

through

[chris_sherwin]: 17:17

because

[william_meyer]: 17:18

grants

[chris_sherwin]: 17:18

you're talking

[william_meyer]: 17:18

for a lot of them are donations

[chris_sherwin]: 17:20

well you're talking for this

[shaun]: 17:22

m

[chris_sherwin]: 17:22

is back

[scott]: 17:22

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:22

when i had my first dog so when

[shaun]: 17:24

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:25

i had sebek we had

[shaun]: 17:26

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:26

the training

[shaun]: 17:27

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 17:28

four weeks

[scott]: 17:29

m

[shaun]: 17:29

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 17:29

and the dog back then was about fifteen grand

[shaun]: 17:34

hm

[william_meyer]: 17:35

yeah

[shaun]: 17:36

worth

[chris_sherwin]: 17:36

so

[shaun]: 17:36

it

[scott]: 17:37

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:37

you put

[scott]: 17:37

yah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:37

that in perspective

[shaun]: 17:38

i say it's

[william_meyer]: 17:38

yep

[chris_sherwin]: 17:38

now

[shaun]: 17:38

worth it you know

[william_meyer]: 17:39

right

[scott]: 17:39

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 17:40

hunt per cent

[william_meyer]: 17:40

right

[scott]: 17:41

oh yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:41

because especially especially if you when you get a handler you pick a handler because my

[shaun]: 17:45

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 17:45

goal was always to make whatever they spent on on the dog my goal is always to make that back and either drugs cat um you know

[shaun]: 17:53

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 17:53

seizures or something in the first year

[william_meyer]: 17:55

right

[chris_sherwin]: 17:56

that that was i mean

[william_meyer]: 17:57

yep

[chris_sherwin]: 17:57

if you got to handle us like hey i want i want to make my money back

[shaun]: 17:59

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 17:59

you know for the city that's kind

[william_meyer]: 18:01

m

[chris_sherwin]: 18:01

of like that's kind of like the way i work but now it's you know and probably twenty grand for for everything

[scott]: 18:06

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 18:06

and that that's not even

[william_meyer]: 18:07

yep

[chris_sherwin]: 18:07

including the upkeep and the maintnance of the cars

[shaun]: 18:09

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 18:09

and stuff too

[william_meyer]: 18:11

so with forfeitures i mean we

[shaun]: 18:14

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:14

we would always be around

[chris_sherwin]: 18:16

m

[shaun]: 18:16

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:17

i mean

[chris_sherwin]: 18:17

m

[william_meyer]: 18:17

my just my vice squad i was bringing

[shaun]: 18:19

ye

[william_meyer]: 18:19

in a hundred and fifty thousand

[shaun]: 18:21

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:21

just in forfeitures because we nuisance abatement for prostitution

[shaun]: 18:25

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:26

things we take

[shaun]: 18:26

ah

[william_meyer]: 18:27

the tricks cars

[chris_sherwin]: 18:28

m

[shaun]: 18:28

ah

[william_meyer]: 18:29

and they

[chris_sherwin]: 18:29

m

[william_meyer]: 18:29

would have to

[shaun]: 18:29

m

[william_meyer]: 18:29

pay nine one fifty bucks to get their car back

[chris_sherwin]: 18:31

m

[shaun]: 18:31

there you go

[scott]: 18:31

right

[william_meyer]: 18:32

uh so detroit started it

[shaun]: 18:34

okay

[william_meyer]: 18:34

we took

[scott]: 18:34

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:34

we it and ran with it

[chris_sherwin]: 18:36

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:36

and

[scott]: 18:36

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:36

so we were bringing in

[chris_sherwin]: 18:37

no

[scott]: 18:38

ye

[william_meyer]: 18:38

when i was there anywhere

[shaun]: 18:40

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:40

probably close to about five hundred dollars

[chris_sherwin]: 18:42

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:42

in between

[shaun]: 18:42

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:43

our narcotic screws

[chris_sherwin]: 18:44

oh

[scott]: 18:44

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:45

and vice

[shaun]: 18:45

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:46

and through our gangs we had about four different gang squads

[chris_sherwin]: 18:48

oh

[shaun]: 18:49

yeah

[scott]: 18:50

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:50

so

[shaun]: 18:51

as

[william_meyer]: 18:51

they brought in a lot of money to base they did a lot more traffic stops we did a lot of

[shaun]: 18:54

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:55

you know a lot more raids and

[scott]: 18:56

yeah

[william_meyer]: 18:57

you know

[shaun]: 18:57

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:57

i got all my money pretty

[shaun]: 18:58

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:58

much throg i

[chris_sherwin]: 18:59

oh

[william_meyer]: 18:59

uh stings and

[scott]: 19:01

oh

[william_meyer]: 19:01

and things like that but

[chris_sherwin]: 19:02

i

[scott]: 19:02

yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:03

money comes in pretty quick

[shaun]: 19:04

h

[william_meyer]: 19:04

with forfeitures especially in such a depressed city like flint

[shaun]: 19:07

yeah

[scott]: 19:08

yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:08

and

[scott]: 19:09

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:09

cool

[william_meyer]: 19:09

that's sort of where it goes to a lot of our forfeiture money is just to pay for new d v cars

[chris_sherwin]: 19:14

oh

[shaun]: 19:14

oh

[william_meyer]: 19:15

and you know new undercover cars

[chris_sherwin]: 19:17

yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:17

and

[scott]: 19:18

hm

[william_meyer]: 19:18

my hundred

[shaun]: 19:18

m yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:18

and fifty thousand bought one of

[chris_sherwin]: 19:20

i

[william_meyer]: 19:20

our chiefs duly he thought this

[shaun]: 19:22

yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:23

department should have had a duly truck

[scott]: 19:24

oh

[shaun]: 19:24

yeah

[william_meyer]: 19:24

so we

[shaun]: 19:25

right right

[william_meyer]: 19:26

a hundred foot grand from one year just to do that so

[chris_sherwin]: 19:28

i mean i mean you're talking you know five hundred thousand that that's no chump change but i mean you know by the time

[scott]: 19:34

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:34

you give me that money everywhere else

[shaun]: 19:36

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 19:37

i mean

[william_meyer]: 19:37

right

[chris_sherwin]: 19:37

you know it's

[scott]: 19:38

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 19:38

it doesn't leave a ton

[shaun]: 19:39

a

[chris_sherwin]: 19:40

or you know because you know

[shaun]: 19:42

ah

[scott]: 19:42

right

[william_meyer]: 19:42

o thing extra

[chris_sherwin]: 19:43

no

[shaun]: 19:43

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:43

and really i mean

[william_meyer]: 19:44

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:44

an you're scraping and what a you going to do you are you going to you know

[scott]: 19:48

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 19:48

get another

[william_meyer]: 19:48

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:48

dog or you're gonna

[shaun]: 19:49

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:49

buy a new car while you're most like you're probably gonna

[shaun]: 19:51

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:51

buy

[william_meyer]: 19:51

right

[chris_sherwin]: 19:51

a new car with those because

[scott]: 19:53

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 19:53

under cover as it you're your patrol division

[shaun]: 19:56

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:56

needs

[scott]: 19:56

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 19:56

it you know your dick need it or

[shaun]: 19:58

okay

[chris_sherwin]: 19:58

whatever you

[shaun]: 19:59

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 19:59

a dog

[william_meyer]: 19:59

right

[chris_sherwin]: 19:59

comes like four five and you know fourth or fifth on the list where

[scott]: 20:01

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:02

if you have you know

[scott]: 20:03

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 20:04

when people

[shaun]: 20:04

m

[chris_sherwin]: 20:04

put a donation specifically for that and i'm telling you right now when

[scott]: 20:07

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 20:07

we used to get donations when we first started getting donations we had one of our

[shaun]: 20:11

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 20:12

uh

[scott]: 20:12

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 20:13

one of our one of our people on the brass had a

[william_meyer]: 20:16

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:16

hard time with it and i'm not going to mention any names until because it was always well you know

[shaun]: 20:21

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 20:22

then then they expect favors and stuff like that and that is farther

[william_meyer]: 20:25

no it's

[chris_sherwin]: 20:25

from

[william_meyer]: 20:25

just

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the

[william_meyer]: 20:25

to

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truth

[william_meyer]: 20:25

help out

[chris_sherwin]: 20:26

you know

[shaun]: 20:26

oh

[scott]: 20:26

it's a community

[william_meyer]: 20:27

yeah

[scott]: 20:27

thing

[chris_sherwin]: 20:27

but

[shaun]: 20:27

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 20:27

you know we're

[william_meyer]: 20:28

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:28

the only

[shaun]: 20:29

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 20:29

thing that we ever is like these people

[scott]: 20:31

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:31

are so engrossed in the dogs and the canine units they love to see him

[william_meyer]: 20:36

m

[chris_sherwin]: 20:36

they just wanted to make sure that that money would go nowhere else so they would they

[shaun]: 20:42

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 20:42

would give a hundred dollars or a thousand dollars whatever and

[william_meyer]: 20:45

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:45

they would just want to say where did that money go like we bought

[scott]: 20:48

right

[chris_sherwin]: 20:48

it

[william_meyer]: 20:48

right and they can see it every day

[chris_sherwin]: 20:50

yeah

[william_meyer]: 20:50

on the street when

[chris_sherwin]: 20:51

we

[scott]: 20:51

yeah

[william_meyer]: 20:51

the

[chris_sherwin]: 20:51

bought

[william_meyer]: 20:51

dog is out

[chris_sherwin]: 20:52

we bought a treadmill

[shaun]: 20:52

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 20:53

for for the dogs

[scott]: 20:53

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:54

we bought you know so we bought but

[william_meyer]: 20:56

okay

[chris_sherwin]: 20:56

that was the only

[shaun]: 20:56

m

[chris_sherwin]: 20:56

big the biggest problem that they

[shaun]: 20:58

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 20:58

had is that people will call and say what did you do with

[shaun]: 21:00

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:00

the money and is it helping the dog or is it helping handler

[shaun]: 21:03

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:03

you know they didn't

[scott]: 21:04

hm

[william_meyer]: 21:04

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:04

know it was it was it's

[shaun]: 21:06

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:06

so

[scott]: 21:06

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 21:06

crazy and people just hey wanted to see it they want to see it out there because you know you know

[shaun]: 21:11

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:11

hey see the dogs and

[william_meyer]: 21:12

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 21:12

they know the dogs that

[william_meyer]: 21:13

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:13

are loyal and they don't complain

[shaun]: 21:14

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:14

and they will go where

[shaun]: 21:16

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:16

um they show up they come in when they're

[shaun]: 21:18

i

[chris_sherwin]: 21:18

sick

[scott]: 21:18

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:18

they come in when their pa gets cut

[shaun]: 21:20

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 21:20

and you know

[william_meyer]: 21:21

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:21

they're out there and they're such a huge social thing

[scott]: 21:24

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:24

too where people love the dogs

[william_meyer]: 21:25

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:25

and everything to

[shaun]: 21:26

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:26

you know and the right dog that could could be social and then you know if he's got to go after you know the bad guy he could he could apprehend

[shaun]: 21:33

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 21:33

a bad guy and then all of a sudden it's

[william_meyer]: 21:35

flip

[chris_sherwin]: 21:35

over it's over

[william_meyer]: 21:35

flip the switch

[shaun]: 21:36

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:36

but people

[scott]: 21:36

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 21:37

but people love it people love it and i

[scott]: 21:38

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:39

just think

[shaun]: 21:39

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:39

you

[shaun]: 21:39

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:39

know money can't be better spent and honestly that the money that

[scott]: 21:43

at

[chris_sherwin]: 21:43

you could i think that's a little easier sometimes when you tell people

[scott]: 21:47

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:47

that money is going to strictly and then if you're

[scott]: 21:49

m

[chris_sherwin]: 21:49

a tell them hey we're gonna get new night vision for sat they don't know what that

[shaun]: 21:52

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:52

is

[william_meyer]: 21:52

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:52

they'll never

[william_meyer]: 21:53

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:53

see that

[scott]: 21:53

yeah

[william_meyer]: 21:54

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:54

you know

[scott]: 21:54

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 21:54

even though

[william_meyer]: 21:55

right

[chris_sherwin]: 21:55

even though that it's

[shaun]: 21:55

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:55

needed

[scott]: 21:57

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 21:57

they'll never see

[shaun]: 21:58

m

[chris_sherwin]: 21:58

that

[william_meyer]: 21:58

m

[chris_sherwin]: 21:58

but where

[scott]: 21:58

oh

[shaun]: 21:58

so

[chris_sherwin]: 21:58

they see

[shaun]: 21:59

so

[chris_sherwin]: 21:59

is

[william_meyer]: 21:59

right

[shaun]: 21:59

the key to this is telling people if you want night vision tell them it's night vision for sat dogs

[chris_sherwin]: 22:04

right right

[william_meyer]: 22:05

yes for the dog chest

[scott]: 22:06

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 22:06

right

[shaun]: 22:06

we did bring dogs on our team and they were really great

[chris_sherwin]: 22:08

oh

[shaun]: 22:08

resources and assets and

[scott]: 22:10

oh

[shaun]: 22:10

as usual sat

[william_meyer]: 22:10

ah

[shaun]: 22:10

guys were completely impatient with the dog doing its job and we miss a

[scott]: 22:14

right

[shaun]: 22:14

person on a search even though the dog was like yeah i kind of indicate

[scott]: 22:17

oh

[shaun]: 22:17

it back there but

[chris_sherwin]: 22:18

yeah

[william_meyer]: 22:18

yeah

[shaun]: 22:18

the thing about like chris brought up earlier about the medical

[william_meyer]: 22:21

yeah

[shaun]: 22:21

aspect of it like dogs will work and they will

[william_meyer]: 22:23

oh

[shaun]: 22:23

get like they work they have drive

[chris_sherwin]: 22:24

yep

[shaun]: 22:25

they want to do what they got to do they want to please

[scott]: 22:26

yeah

[shaun]: 22:27

like all of us around like we're all like yeah good boy like

[chris_sherwin]: 22:30

right

[shaun]: 22:30

when he's doing what he need to do when he's finding drugs or whatever and the dogs love that they know they're smart enough to figure

[william_meyer]: 22:34

oh

[shaun]: 22:34

that out but you know

[chris_sherwin]: 22:36

m

[shaun]: 22:36

christmas

[william_meyer]: 22:36

oh

[shaun]: 22:37

dog we joked about it he had a titanium

[chris_sherwin]: 22:38

oh

[shaun]: 22:39

tooth

[william_meyer]: 22:39

yeah

[shaun]: 22:39

like

[chris_sherwin]: 22:39

oh

[shaun]: 22:39

it was like he was like the terminator was really

[chris_sherwin]: 22:42

yeah

[scott]: 22:42

yeah

[shaun]: 22:42

i was like like he got this really cool like

[chris_sherwin]: 22:44

yeah

[shaun]: 22:44

it was his grill

[scott]: 22:44

like you could just you see that like the moonlight shimmer

[chris_sherwin]: 22:47

yeah

[scott]: 22:47

off it you know at night like

[shaun]: 22:48

it was like it was

[scott]: 22:49

an

[shaun]: 22:49

like the yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 22:50

and you're just thinking

[shaun]: 22:51

it was like

[chris_sherwin]: 22:51

man

[shaun]: 22:51

the thing on

[chris_sherwin]: 22:52

somebody

[shaun]: 22:52

dalton's

[chris_sherwin]: 22:52

is about

[shaun]: 22:52

boot

[scott]: 22:52

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 22:52

to have a

[shaun]: 22:53

and

[chris_sherwin]: 22:53

bad night

[scott]: 22:54

yeah

[shaun]: 22:54

it like it was the thing on dalton's boot from road house

[chris_sherwin]: 22:56

yeah

[shaun]: 22:57

right

[scott]: 22:57

ah

[shaun]: 22:57

boot you know like

[william_meyer]: 22:58

oh

[shaun]: 22:58

i think it

[chris_sherwin]: 22:59

right

[shaun]: 22:59

would

[chris_sherwin]: 22:59

but

[shaun]: 23:00

shine and

[chris_sherwin]: 23:01

right canine

[shaun]: 23:01

you

[william_meyer]: 23:01

yeah

[shaun]: 23:01

know

[chris_sherwin]: 23:02

yeah

[shaun]: 23:02

but

[scott]: 23:02

chris wears it on a necklace around

[chris_sherwin]: 23:04

yeah

[scott]: 23:04

his neck now they had

[shaun]: 23:05

oh i

[scott]: 23:07

at

[shaun]: 23:07

think

[scott]: 23:07

it

[shaun]: 23:07

we

[scott]: 23:07

removed

[shaun]: 23:07

i think we dropped him

[chris_sherwin]: 23:08

here is

[scott]: 23:09

h

[shaun]: 23:09

back that we'll edit that out that's all good

[chris_sherwin]: 23:12

yeah

[scott]: 23:12

oh

[shaun]: 23:13

but you know like i said it's a thing that if you can make a consideratio and to make an a donation to

[scott]: 23:18

a

[shaun]: 23:18

this this would be great because obviously it's a town that's strapped

[chris_sherwin]: 23:20

m

[shaun]: 23:21

i mean watch that show

[william_meyer]: 23:22

obviously

[shaun]: 23:22

i

[william_meyer]: 23:22

it's

[shaun]: 23:22

say

[william_meyer]: 23:22

a top

[shaun]: 23:22

it all the time i mean i was really impressed with the people of

[chris_sherwin]: 23:26

yeah

[shaun]: 23:26

flint town because like when i thought about my own problems as a cop what i was dealing with whatever i'd watch that and go i need to shut the fuck up in

[chris_sherwin]: 23:34

m

[shaun]: 23:34

plain english

[chris_sherwin]: 23:34

right

[scott]: 23:34

m

[shaun]: 23:34

because those folks are shown

[scott]: 23:36

ye

[shaun]: 23:36

up every single day to

[chris_sherwin]: 23:38

right

[shaun]: 23:38

deal with a situation that

[chris_sherwin]: 23:39

yeah

[shaun]: 23:39

has just failed government across the board and i'm not the people in that government are failed it's just

[chris_sherwin]: 23:43

my oh

[shaun]: 23:44

how things

[scott]: 23:44

oh

[shaun]: 23:44

can break down to the point where you can't even have you know clean running water and it can cost people their jobs

[william_meyer]: 23:49

right

[shaun]: 23:49

and

[chris_sherwin]: 23:49

right

[shaun]: 23:49

their lives and

[chris_sherwin]: 23:50

right

[shaun]: 23:51

and things like that so

[scott]: 23:52

yeah

[shaun]: 23:52

you know full well flint coppers

[chris_sherwin]: 23:54

oh

[shaun]: 23:54

are probably paying out of their own pockets

[scott]: 23:55

yeah

[shaun]: 23:56

to take care of that dog to keep what they can to keep

[chris_sherwin]: 23:59

oh

[shaun]: 23:59

what's left of that city safe

[william_meyer]: 24:01

just to keep it going

[shaun]: 24:01

yeah

[william_meyer]: 24:02

for sure

[shaun]: 24:02

so the idea

[scott]: 24:03

ah

[shaun]: 24:03

of that is that you know we felt we should

[scott]: 24:04

ah

[shaun]: 24:05

bring him on to you kind of talk a little bit about dog because body like hearn about dogs

[chris_sherwin]: 24:08

oh

[shaun]: 24:08

and then obviously this is a great cause for that

[scott]: 24:12

oh

[shaun]: 24:13

can you tell us a little bit about how people

[chris_sherwin]: 24:15

m

[shaun]: 24:15

get a hold

[chris_sherwin]: 24:16

oh

[shaun]: 24:16

of you know the source

[scott]: 24:18

it's

[shaun]: 24:18

that

[scott]: 24:18

just

[shaun]: 24:19

will be managing money is just that deputy chief

[william_meyer]: 24:20

so it's uh

[scott]: 24:21

deputy chief he

[william_meyer]: 24:23

yeah deputy chief jeff and cliff

[chris_sherwin]: 24:25

oh

[shaun]: 24:25

yeah

[scott]: 24:26

m

[william_meyer]: 24:26

and i can give you

[chris_sherwin]: 24:28

oh

[shaun]: 24:28

yes

[william_meyer]: 24:29

you want to write it down

[chris_sherwin]: 24:29

oh

[william_meyer]: 24:29

and then you could maybe put it in your

[scott]: 24:31

go ahead and just give it out to us and well and everybody can

[william_meyer]: 24:33

yep

[scott]: 24:34

everybody

[shaun]: 24:34

and it will

[scott]: 24:34

can

[shaun]: 24:34

be in the show notes as

[scott]: 24:35

go

[shaun]: 24:35

well

[scott]: 24:35

to yeah

[william_meyer]: 24:37

so it's

[shaun]: 24:37

m

[scott]: 24:38

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 24:39

m

[william_meyer]: 24:39

handwriting is horrible so it's

[shaun]: 24:41

yeah

[william_meyer]: 24:41

a

[chris_sherwin]: 24:41

r mayor dr

[shaun]: 24:42

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 24:43

doctor

[scott]: 24:43

oh

[william_meyer]: 24:44

it's jes and john an

[shaun]: 24:47

m

[william_meyer]: 24:48

see hold on

[scott]: 24:50

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 24:51

you already

[shaun]: 24:51

this

[chris_sherwin]: 24:52

have

[shaun]: 24:52

all

[chris_sherwin]: 24:52

your

[shaun]: 24:52

be

[chris_sherwin]: 24:52

glasses

[shaun]: 24:52

edit out it's

[chris_sherwin]: 24:52

on

[shaun]: 24:52

all good let's

[scott]: 24:53

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 24:53

yeah

[william_meyer]: 24:53

i know what

[scott]: 24:55

look

[chris_sherwin]: 24:55

so

[scott]: 24:55

through

[chris_sherwin]: 24:55

we don't

[scott]: 24:55

the

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

know

[william_meyer]: 24:56

so

[scott]: 24:56

bottom

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

if

[william_meyer]: 24:56

here

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

it's

[scott]: 24:56

part

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

a

[scott]: 24:56

of your

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

we

[scott]: 24:56

glasses

[chris_sherwin]: 24:56

don't know if it's as glasses hers dementia

[scott]: 24:58

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 24:58

right now so we've got to give us a second

[william_meyer]: 25:00

a

[shaun]: 25:00

it's th

[chris_sherwin]: 25:00

we're

[shaun]: 25:00

it's

[chris_sherwin]: 25:00

not

[shaun]: 25:00

both

[chris_sherwin]: 25:00

really sure

[shaun]: 25:01

both

[william_meyer]: 25:02

o it is j a n t

[scott]: 25:06

yeah

[william_meyer]: 25:07

c l i f so it's

[shaun]: 25:09

oh

[william_meyer]: 25:10

it's j

[chris_sherwin]: 25:11

oh

[william_meyer]: 25:12

as in his name is jeff

[shaun]: 25:13

yeah

[scott]: 25:13

ah

[william_meyer]: 25:13

j s and john and

[chris_sherwin]: 25:15

ye

[william_meyer]: 25:15

cliff

[shaun]: 25:15

yeah

[william_meyer]: 25:16

at city of flint dot com

[scott]: 25:19

oh

[shaun]: 25:19

m

[william_meyer]: 25:20

and if you could see that it's right there at the

[chris_sherwin]: 25:21

no

[william_meyer]: 25:21

bottom

[scott]: 25:21

j

[shaun]: 25:22

right

[scott]: 25:22

and

[shaun]: 25:22

there you

[scott]: 25:22

cliff

[shaun]: 25:22

go and

[chris_sherwin]: 25:23

yeah

[shaun]: 25:23

we'll get a picture

[william_meyer]: 25:24

and

[shaun]: 25:24

up

[chris_sherwin]: 25:24

oh

[shaun]: 25:25

that people

[scott]: 25:25

oh

[shaun]: 25:25

can see through the website of

[chris_sherwin]: 25:27

right

[shaun]: 25:27

the of

[scott]: 25:28

yeah

[shaun]: 25:28

the logodetire and

[william_meyer]: 25:30

yah

[shaun]: 25:30

the coffee cups

[chris_sherwin]: 25:30

oh

[shaun]: 25:30

it's really cool stuff i mean it's just

[scott]: 25:33

oh

[shaun]: 25:33

also you can represent flint around the country i think we all as cops should maybe take those guys on that that agency on to

[chris_sherwin]: 25:39

oh

[shaun]: 25:40

say hey look you know they're the

[scott]: 25:41

oh

[shaun]: 25:41

tip of the spear in a situation that if we're all not careful we could

[chris_sherwin]: 25:45

ah

[shaun]: 25:45

all end up begging for dancing for

[william_meyer]: 25:47

and

[scott]: 25:47

he

[shaun]: 25:47

nichols

[william_meyer]: 25:47

especially the city we started out as one of the top departments in the nation we had you know

[shaun]: 25:53

oh

[scott]: 25:53

oh

[william_meyer]: 25:53

one of the best community police ing foot

[chris_sherwin]: 25:55

oh

[william_meyer]: 25:55

patrol in the

[shaun]: 25:56

oh

[william_meyer]: 25:56

nation

[scott]: 25:56

yeah

[william_meyer]: 25:57

we used to have chiefs com

[shaun]: 25:58

m

[william_meyer]: 25:59

and try to learn so we went from one of the

[shaun]: 26:02

yes

[william_meyer]: 26:02

better

[chris_sherwin]: 26:03

yeah

[william_meyer]: 26:03

departments

[shaun]: 26:04

yeah

[william_meyer]: 26:05

and but

[shaun]: 26:05

yeah

[william_meyer]: 26:05

we depended on g m it was

[chris_sherwin]: 26:07

oh

[shaun]: 26:07

ye

[william_meyer]: 26:07

total auto industry

[shaun]: 26:08

oh

[william_meyer]: 26:08

that's

[scott]: 26:09

yeah

[william_meyer]: 26:09

what everyone

[chris_sherwin]: 26:09

yep

[william_meyer]: 26:10

cared about

[scott]: 26:10

right

[william_meyer]: 26:11

was

[chris_sherwin]: 26:11

yes

[william_meyer]: 26:11

auto industry

[shaun]: 26:12

oh

[william_meyer]: 26:12

well

[scott]: 26:13

m

[william_meyer]: 26:13

sooner or later the auto industry you know g m finally realized

[chris_sherwin]: 26:17

oh

[scott]: 26:17

m

[william_meyer]: 26:18

why would i pay a janitor sixty thousand dollars a year when i can

[scott]: 26:21

m

[william_meyer]: 26:22

move somewhere

[chris_sherwin]: 26:23

m

[william_meyer]: 26:23

and

[scott]: 26:23

m

[shaun]: 26:24

yeah

[william_meyer]: 26:24

pay them

[chris_sherwin]: 26:24

oh

[william_meyer]: 26:25

half of that

[chris_sherwin]: 26:25

all right

[shaun]: 26:25

right

[scott]: 26:26

hm

[william_meyer]: 26:26

so they decided little by

[scott]: 26:28

m

[william_meyer]: 26:28

little they started pulling out and finally in twenty ten i mean when bewick

[chris_sherwin]: 26:32

but

[william_meyer]: 26:32

city

[chris_sherwin]: 26:32

the prices

[william_meyer]: 26:32

left them

[chris_sherwin]: 26:32

of my

[william_meyer]: 26:33

and that

[chris_sherwin]: 26:33

cars

[william_meyer]: 26:33

was about

[chris_sherwin]: 26:33

didn't go down any with the move

[shaun]: 26:35

yeah

[scott]: 26:36

right

[chris_sherwin]: 26:37

you're saying

[shaun]: 26:39

yeah and

[chris_sherwin]: 26:39

yeah

[shaun]: 26:40

you

[william_meyer]: 26:40

so

[shaun]: 26:40

know it's it's a story of like

[scott]: 26:41

ah

[shaun]: 26:41

when you look to that and you look to the upper midwest where we were all cops it's it's like unions

[william_meyer]: 26:45

yeah

[shaun]: 26:45

made the way where ordinary people could make a good live and have a good life doing providing a service to people

[chris_sherwin]: 26:50

m

[shaun]: 26:51

and what you're seeing is that the start to

[scott]: 26:52

oh

[shaun]: 26:52

disintegrate and we're not

[scott]: 26:54

m

[shaun]: 26:54

joking about the fact that flint is no different than detroit

[chris_sherwin]: 26:56

m yes

[shaun]: 26:57

and detroit used to be a

[william_meyer]: 26:58

right

[shaun]: 26:58

once great city and all of that air is impacted

[chris_sherwin]: 27:00

m

[shaun]: 27:00

by chicago is going

[william_meyer]: 27:02

yeah

[shaun]: 27:02

down a similar route people people think

[scott]: 27:04

oh

[shaun]: 27:04

it can't

[william_meyer]: 27:04

right

[shaun]: 27:04

happen to something that size like

[chris_sherwin]: 27:06

yea

[shaun]: 27:06

no

[scott]: 27:06

like

[shaun]: 27:06

city is too big to fail i mean you're seeing it nobody wants to

[chris_sherwin]: 27:10

yeah

[shaun]: 27:10

be a cop in chicago anymore

[chris_sherwin]: 27:11

but here's the

[shaun]: 27:12

you

[chris_sherwin]: 27:12

thing

[scott]: 27:12

what

[william_meyer]: 27:12

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:12

but here's the ting with flint though shan flints making flint

[scott]: 27:15

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:15

making

[shaun]: 27:15

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:15

decisions to make

[shaun]: 27:17

it better

[chris_sherwin]: 27:17

best of what they have you

[shaun]: 27:18

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:18

know chicago

[william_meyer]: 27:19

right

[scott]: 27:19

hm

[shaun]: 27:19

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:19

is not like going hey we need ten dogs because

[shaun]: 27:22

oh

[scott]: 27:22

a

[chris_sherwin]: 27:23

and one of the things you hear is like

[shaun]: 27:24

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:25

one dog is worth you know

[shaun]: 27:26

m

[chris_sherwin]: 27:26

one dog is worth four officers and that's not true and that that came

[scott]: 27:30

oh

[william_meyer]: 27:30

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:30

from the that

[shaun]: 27:31

it's

[chris_sherwin]: 27:31

came

[shaun]: 27:31

ten

[chris_sherwin]: 27:32

from

[shaun]: 27:32

it's ten

[chris_sherwin]: 27:32

a

[shaun]: 27:32

officers

[chris_sherwin]: 27:32

old yeah that just came from a old an old

[scott]: 27:35

a yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:36

folk

[shaun]: 27:36

just

[chris_sherwin]: 27:36

lore where

[william_meyer]: 27:37

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:37

all it does is the dogs search faster quicker some one stead of sending

[shaun]: 27:41

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:42

four officers down the hallway you send one

[scott]: 27:44

hm

[chris_sherwin]: 27:44

dog down the hallway and he

[scott]: 27:45

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:45

could just

[william_meyer]: 27:46

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:46

it's not that

[shaun]: 27:46

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 27:46

he does the work of fore

[shaun]: 27:47

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:48

he

[scott]: 27:48

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 27:48

does one or two things faster

[shaun]: 27:50

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 27:50

than the

[scott]: 27:51

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:51

han four that's all but

[william_meyer]: 27:53

right

[chris_sherwin]: 27:53

you don't

[scott]: 27:53

what

[chris_sherwin]: 27:54

see chicago making those

[shaun]: 27:55

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 27:55

strides to go hey you know what

[shaun]: 27:56

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:56

we're losing

[scott]: 27:57

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 27:57

all these officers whatever let's do this at least flinch

[william_meyer]: 28:00

right

[chris_sherwin]: 28:00

trying

[shaun]: 28:00

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 28:01

something

[scott]: 28:01

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 28:02

and

[shaun]: 28:02

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 28:02

you know

[william_meyer]: 28:02

they're doing they're doing everything they can and it's uh

[shaun]: 28:05

yeah

[william_meyer]: 28:05

you know i love

[chris_sherwin]: 28:06

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:06

to see

[scott]: 28:07

yeah

[william_meyer]: 28:07

it because you know i'm

[shaun]: 28:08

yeah

[william_meyer]: 28:08

i still have buddies that are there from even when i came on in ninety one

[scott]: 28:11

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 28:11

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:11

so it's really

[shaun]: 28:12

m

[william_meyer]: 28:12

nice

[shaun]: 28:12

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:12

to see

[chris_sherwin]: 28:13

m

[william_meyer]: 28:13

you know that is trying

[chris_sherwin]: 28:15

oh

[scott]: 28:16

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:16

our retirement i mean it was getting

[shaun]: 28:17

ye

[william_meyer]: 28:17

close to where we probably would have shut the doors of the police devarnment

[shaun]: 28:20

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 28:20

no

[william_meyer]: 28:20

about a year ago were at twenty six percent funded in our pension

[scott]: 28:24

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 28:24

wow

[shaun]: 28:24

m m

[william_meyer]: 28:25

when i retired we were at four d

[shaun]: 28:26

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:26

per cent now we got down to

[chris_sherwin]: 28:28

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:28

twenty six

[scott]: 28:28

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:29

per cent but the

[shaun]: 28:30

m

[scott]: 28:30

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:31

the mayor went to the state and

[shaun]: 28:34

oh

[scott]: 28:34

m

[william_meyer]: 28:35

probably everything he could begged

[chris_sherwin]: 28:36

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:37

and

[scott]: 28:37

yeah

[william_meyer]: 28:37

and hoped that they would help us out and they gave us two under

[shaun]: 28:40

oh

[william_meyer]: 28:40

seventy million dollars

[chris_sherwin]: 28:40

ye

[shaun]: 28:41

ye

[william_meyer]: 28:41

to

[scott]: 28:41

wow

[william_meyer]: 28:41

straighten out our pension

[shaun]: 28:42

that's

[scott]: 28:42

nice

[william_meyer]: 28:42

our

[shaun]: 28:42

great

[william_meyer]: 28:43

pension now is

[shaun]: 28:43

it's

[william_meyer]: 28:43

at

[shaun]: 28:43

great

[william_meyer]: 28:43

sixty

[shaun]: 28:43

to hear

[william_meyer]: 28:44

per cent

[scott]: 28:45

that's good

[william_meyer]: 28:45

and i set for twenty years which huge for for us

[chris_sherwin]: 28:48

right

[scott]: 28:49

yeah

[william_meyer]: 28:49

had that we don't have to worry about our checks bouncing

[chris_sherwin]: 28:52

well

[scott]: 28:52

i like

[chris_sherwin]: 28:52

that's

[scott]: 28:52

i

[chris_sherwin]: 28:52

awesome

[scott]: 28:52

like the fact of just getting so

[shaun]: 28:54

yeah

[scott]: 28:54

resourceful of taking taking a second hand dog from the indian reservation i love

[william_meyer]: 28:58

yeah

[scott]: 28:58

that

[shaun]: 28:58

right

[scott]: 28:58

one that's great

[shaun]: 28:59

right

[chris_sherwin]: 28:59

but he

[scott]: 29:00

like

[shaun]: 29:00

right

[william_meyer]: 29:00

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 29:00

always speaks

[shaun]: 29:00

right

[chris_sherwin]: 29:00

cherokee

[shaun]: 29:01

right

[scott]: 29:01

like

[william_meyer]: 29:01

it was

[scott]: 29:01

yeah

[william_meyer]: 29:01

a good

[chris_sherwin]: 29:02

you

[william_meyer]: 29:02

lot to

[shaun]: 29:02

right

[scott]: 29:03

i

[shaun]: 29:03

a

[scott]: 29:03

imagine the they're trying to they're like

[shaun]: 29:05

ah

[scott]: 29:06

getting them all like you know groomed and everything like so he's got a lot of miles left down

[chris_sherwin]: 29:10

yeah

[shaun]: 29:11

right

[scott]: 29:11

it's

[shaun]: 29:11

right he's

[scott]: 29:11

all good

[shaun]: 29:11

a good

[scott]: 29:11

but

[shaun]: 29:11

dog

[william_meyer]: 29:12

yeah

[shaun]: 29:12

right right right

[scott]: 29:12

i got i got

[chris_sherwin]: 29:13

yeah

[scott]: 29:13

today only i got a real

[shaun]: 29:14

right

[scott]: 29:14

good price

[chris_sherwin]: 29:15

that

[scott]: 29:15

on this

[chris_sherwin]: 29:16

that would

[scott]: 29:16

slightly

[shaun]: 29:16

right

[chris_sherwin]: 29:16

be a

[scott]: 29:16

used

[william_meyer]: 29:16

we

[scott]: 29:17

ceenhit over here

[chris_sherwin]: 29:18

would be a great

[shaun]: 29:18

they're

[chris_sherwin]: 29:18

that

[shaun]: 29:18

like

[chris_sherwin]: 29:18

would

[shaun]: 29:18

they

[chris_sherwin]: 29:19

be

[shaun]: 29:19

filled

[chris_sherwin]: 29:19

a great

[shaun]: 29:19

for the

[chris_sherwin]: 29:19

fight

[shaun]: 29:19

tobacco

[william_meyer]: 29:19

he only lasted

[shaun]: 29:20

they file

[william_meyer]: 29:20

four

[shaun]: 29:20

for the

[william_meyer]: 29:20

years

[shaun]: 29:20

tobacco

[william_meyer]: 29:21

though

[shaun]: 29:21

and let

[william_meyer]: 29:21

he

[shaun]: 29:21

them

[william_meyer]: 29:21

was

[chris_sherwin]: 29:21

that

[shaun]: 29:21

fall

[chris_sherwin]: 29:21

would be

[shaun]: 29:21

for

[chris_sherwin]: 29:21

a great

[shaun]: 29:21

the

[scott]: 29:22

yeah

[shaun]: 29:22

dog

[chris_sherwin]: 29:22

dog you

[shaun]: 29:22

you

[chris_sherwin]: 29:22

see

[shaun]: 29:22

know

[chris_sherwin]: 29:23

you can see you see scott pull up and jumps out in a full indian

[scott]: 29:25

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 29:26

headdress

[shaun]: 29:27

right right

[william_meyer]: 29:27

oh

[shaun]: 29:27

right

[chris_sherwin]: 29:28

start

[shaun]: 29:28

he

[chris_sherwin]: 29:28

on

[shaun]: 29:28

has

[chris_sherwin]: 29:28

of

[shaun]: 29:29

a story

[chris_sherwin]: 29:29

smoke

[shaun]: 29:29

about

[chris_sherwin]: 29:29

shiggles

[shaun]: 29:29

an indian

[chris_sherwin]: 29:29

instead

[shaun]: 29:29

head

[chris_sherwin]: 29:30

of

[shaun]: 29:30

dress

[chris_sherwin]: 29:30

using the radio

[scott]: 29:31

right

[chris_sherwin]: 29:31

what are you doing

[scott]: 29:32

right right

[chris_sherwin]: 29:33

i gotta

[scott]: 29:33

i've

[shaun]: 29:33

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 29:33

go

[scott]: 29:33

got

[chris_sherwin]: 29:33

put

[scott]: 29:33

like

[chris_sherwin]: 29:33

one in the slot machine first okay

[scott]: 29:35

i've got i've got a whole kennel of dogs here and i'm like all righ what are you looking for i

[chris_sherwin]: 29:38

oh

[scott]: 29:38

got something in a six year old

[shaun]: 29:39

right right

[scott]: 29:40

here it's

[shaun]: 29:40

right

[scott]: 29:40

a little

[shaun]: 29:40

right

[scott]: 29:40

price

[shaun]: 29:41

right

[scott]: 29:41

here you know

[shaun]: 29:41

right

[scott]: 29:41

this one

[shaun]: 29:42

right right

[scott]: 29:42

this one had a ripped off due club but you know he can still he's still pretty quick you know i

[shaun]: 29:46

they're

[scott]: 29:46

just

[shaun]: 29:46

like

[scott]: 29:47

see

[chris_sherwin]: 29:47

he

[scott]: 29:47

that

[shaun]: 29:47

i pulled the side and i pulled him like i heard those dutch shepherds are a little

[chris_sherwin]: 29:51

yeah

[shaun]: 29:51

cerebral you help me like

[scott]: 29:55

and it's it's

[shaun]: 29:56

that not it's like undercoding

[scott]: 29:57

it's actually

[shaun]: 29:58

you know what i mean

[scott]: 29:58

yeah it's actually chris is sheep but i just had the

[shaun]: 30:02

oh

[scott]: 30:02

ears

[chris_sherwin]: 30:03

oh

[scott]: 30:03

trimmed so that it looks like a shepherd like i

[chris_sherwin]: 30:05

did

[scott]: 30:05

don't know

[william_meyer]: 30:06

oh

[scott]: 30:06

he's just

[chris_sherwin]: 30:07

they're

[scott]: 30:07

he's

[chris_sherwin]: 30:07

being

[scott]: 30:07

just

[chris_sherwin]: 30:07

held

[scott]: 30:07

a little

[chris_sherwin]: 30:07

up by

[scott]: 30:08

small

[chris_sherwin]: 30:08

popsicalsticks

[scott]: 30:08

he's just

[shaun]: 30:09

shout

[scott]: 30:09

it he's just a

[shaun]: 30:10

shout

[scott]: 30:10

little small

[shaun]: 30:10

you shouted it out

[scott]: 30:11

it's

[shaun]: 30:11

shut it out

[scott]: 30:11

it's his winter coat

[chris_sherwin]: 30:13

he's mean

[shaun]: 30:13

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 30:13

you're shaken you shake your

[scott]: 30:15

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 30:15

shake pillow sack and throw him in a fight he's good

[william_meyer]: 30:18

uh

[chris_sherwin]: 30:18

yah

[scott]: 30:18

right

[shaun]: 30:19

all right so to kind of round it out around the horn will go with

[chris_sherwin]: 30:21

yeah

[shaun]: 30:22

what's your best

[scott]: 30:23

oh

[shaun]: 30:23

canine story from your time of the job we all have twenty plus years working

[scott]: 30:27

oh

[shaun]: 30:27

chris like you probably got a million of them

[chris_sherwin]: 30:29

oh

[shaun]: 30:29

oh i

[scott]: 30:30

m

[shaun]: 30:30

got a really good one scooter and billy will all go around who wants to start

[chris_sherwin]: 30:33

bill you start

[shaun]: 30:35

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 30:35

your show bill

[scott]: 30:35

h

[chris_sherwin]: 30:36

you start

[william_meyer]: 30:36

an i'll have to think i like to have to think a minute

[shaun]: 30:40

you know i'll jump in because we

[chris_sherwin]: 30:41

all

[shaun]: 30:41

can

[chris_sherwin]: 30:41

right

[shaun]: 30:41

edit

[chris_sherwin]: 30:41

go ahead

[shaun]: 30:41

this whatever way we need to

[chris_sherwin]: 30:42

oh

[shaun]: 30:43

um i remember were at training and we first started incorporating dogs into the work that we were doing a squat and this was early on like you know early two thousands we were doing this and

[chris_sherwin]: 30:50

oh

[shaun]: 30:50

the team i went to this

[william_meyer]: 30:51

yes

[shaun]: 30:52

this canon training class that they do this guy from west coena puts on its skids training it's called it's like some of

[scott]: 30:56

oh

[shaun]: 30:56

the best training everyone on for like

[chris_sherwin]: 30:58

oh

[shaun]: 30:58

utilizing

[scott]: 30:59

oh

[shaun]: 30:59

canines with sad operations

[scott]: 31:00

at

[shaun]: 31:00

and things like that

[scott]: 31:01

ah

[shaun]: 31:01

and i was really impressed with someone like hey i'm gonna bring this back in to the team they were like whatever

[scott]: 31:05

m

[shaun]: 31:06

i was newer on the team so they're kind of like joe been making fun of me and there was one guy in the team he was a leather necked fellow leather neck he's

[scott]: 31:12

yeah

[shaun]: 31:12

now fed he's a fed

[chris_sherwin]: 31:14

kay

[shaun]: 31:14

and one of the lors came was from another agency that was working with us to day because you can't bring one dog and work for twelve hours with

[chris_sherwin]: 31:21

right

[shaun]: 31:21

that dog or you know

[scott]: 31:22

right

[shaun]: 31:22

you got to work it out

[chris_sherwin]: 31:23

well

[shaun]: 31:23

and get everybody their chance

[chris_sherwin]: 31:24

yes

[shaun]: 31:24

because the dogs really

[scott]: 31:25

yeah

[shaun]: 31:25

stress out they think it's a real mission so we're and training we finished up and at the end of the day he was laughing about this guy's little mama like he's like

[scott]: 31:33

yeah

[shaun]: 31:33

look that little dog man what's

[chris_sherwin]: 31:34

oh

[shaun]: 31:34

that little dog gonna

[scott]: 31:35

oh

[shaun]: 31:35

do taking dud down and i just came from that training and i

[william_meyer]: 31:38

is

[shaun]: 31:38

saw what miles could do and i was like i don't

[william_meyer]: 31:40

ah

[shaun]: 31:40

know dude

[william_meyer]: 31:40

they're

[shaun]: 31:41

man

[william_meyer]: 31:41

vicious

[chris_sherwin]: 31:41

yah

[shaun]: 31:41

you know you're picking

[scott]: 31:42

yeah

[shaun]: 31:42

on the little guy don't you never know you know the

[chris_sherwin]: 31:44

h

[scott]: 31:44

oh

[shaun]: 31:45

that is an hour quote about the size of the fight and the dog not the size of the

[scott]: 31:48

oh

[shaun]: 31:49

dog in the fight

[chris_sherwin]: 31:50

right

[shaun]: 31:50

and he's like an over in the like the antlers a bigger dude

[william_meyer]: 31:53

yeah

[shaun]: 31:54

and he's like

[scott]: 31:54

ah

[shaun]: 31:55

you want to suit up and

[chris_sherwin]: 31:57

what

[shaun]: 31:57

m looks at him like what

[scott]: 31:59

here

[shaun]: 31:59

because

[scott]: 31:59

we

[shaun]: 31:59

he

[scott]: 31:59

go

[shaun]: 32:00

is

[scott]: 32:00

yeah

[shaun]: 32:00

like and at that point

[scott]: 32:01

do it

[shaun]: 32:01

taylor's

[chris_sherwin]: 32:01

what

[shaun]: 32:01

like you you're

[chris_sherwin]: 32:02

yeah

[shaun]: 32:02

calling out my damn dog and

[chris_sherwin]: 32:04

right

[shaun]: 32:04

you know

[scott]: 32:04

oh

[shaun]: 32:04

it's like calling out his kid and

[chris_sherwin]: 32:06

right

[shaun]: 32:06

he's like all right

[chris_sherwin]: 32:07

oh

[shaun]: 32:08

and now

[william_meyer]: 32:08

okay

[shaun]: 32:09

our guy couldn't back from that because you know it's sat

[chris_sherwin]: 32:11

now you're front of all sat guys you're like

[shaun]: 32:13

so

[scott]: 32:13

yeah

[shaun]: 32:14

were

[chris_sherwin]: 32:14

right

[shaun]: 32:14

all formed up this circle all the handles all the guys in the squat team we're

[scott]: 32:17

ah

[shaun]: 32:18

all always razing

[scott]: 32:18

yeah

[shaun]: 32:19

on each other whatever so the guys

[scott]: 32:20

oh

[shaun]: 32:20

like we're going to do you act bite on you so you're gonna get the whole suit on and he's like

[scott]: 32:25

oh

[shaun]: 32:26

all

[chris_sherwin]: 32:26

oh

[shaun]: 32:26

right man whatever

[scott]: 32:26

ah yeah

[shaun]: 32:27

so we're training

[william_meyer]: 32:28

oh

[shaun]: 32:29

an there's big open field and you know he gets the suit on the dogs already

[scott]: 32:32

yeah

[shaun]: 32:32

like here we go and he took that hannibal lector mask off the dog

[scott]: 32:36

ah

[shaun]: 32:36

and he's like this is going

[chris_sherwin]: 32:37

the muzzle

[shaun]: 32:37

to be real so

[scott]: 32:38

oh

[shaun]: 32:38

this guy is like eyes are getting well and literally

[chris_sherwin]: 32:41

m

[shaun]: 32:42

he's like all igh we're gonna do the

[scott]: 32:43

i

[shaun]: 32:43

because yeah that dog is going to do ship to me

[scott]: 32:44

oh

[shaun]: 32:44

whatever that little tiny dog gonna do me and this he was a bigger dude i'll give it to him i really love the guy but he's a bigger bigger dude

[scott]: 32:50

yea

[shaun]: 32:50

and that dog i don't know it had to be twenty feet pulled like a michael jordan from the

[chris_sherwin]: 32:56

oh

[shaun]: 32:56

foul line just left and launched and he caught him by the arm the officer by the arm and spun him his air he

[scott]: 33:04

yeah

[shaun]: 33:04

starved ah through the air and we were like oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:06

yeah

[shaun]: 33:07

my

[scott]: 33:07

okay

[shaun]: 33:07

god i were screaming on the dogs dragging his ass all over the place and

[scott]: 33:11

yeah

[shaun]: 33:11

that that handle just

[scott]: 33:13

oh

[shaun]: 33:13

sauntered on up he's like

[scott]: 33:15

yeah

[shaun]: 33:15

off off

[chris_sherwin]: 33:16

your

[shaun]: 33:16

the

[chris_sherwin]: 33:16

god

[shaun]: 33:16

door pulled we like never let that

[chris_sherwin]: 33:18

oh

[shaun]: 33:18

guy live that down i was like that is the coolest thing and i'll never talk ship to a canon

[scott]: 33:21

oh

[shaun]: 33:22

guy again especially about

[chris_sherwin]: 33:23

m

[shaun]: 33:24

that was fun

[chris_sherwin]: 33:25

oh god

[william_meyer]: 33:25

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:25

i don't now i

[shaun]: 33:26

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:26

think i got i got so many

[scott]: 33:28

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:28

but i mean the first one i'll start with to i'll

[shaun]: 33:30

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 33:30

give you two so the first one

[shaun]: 33:31

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 33:31

is actually

[scott]: 33:31

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:32

a funny one

[shaun]: 33:32

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 33:33

so we

[scott]: 33:33

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:33

have a break in

[scott]: 33:35

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:35

and um i get their glasses

[scott]: 33:37

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:38

broken and i send the dog in well the dog sits by a door that leads to the back so

[william_meyer]: 33:44

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 33:44

i go up and i pull the door

[scott]: 33:47

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:47

and the door

[shaun]: 33:47

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:48

is locked so you see

[scott]: 33:49

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:49

me walk out

[shaun]: 33:50

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 33:50

of camera and

[shaun]: 33:51

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 33:51

then of a sudden like i'm gone for three seconds basically somebody's telling me hey doing me the door pushes open and then you see

[shaun]: 33:57

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 33:57

me go back and i pushed the door open

[shaun]: 34:00

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 34:00

and the dog continued to search so

[shaun]: 34:02

there

[chris_sherwin]: 34:02

anyway

[shaun]: 34:02

you go the dogs

[chris_sherwin]: 34:03

but

[shaun]: 34:03

like

[chris_sherwin]: 34:03

i

[shaun]: 34:03

i

[chris_sherwin]: 34:03

think

[shaun]: 34:03

knew that

[chris_sherwin]: 34:04

what i think one of my favorites was we were doing a building search

[scott]: 34:06

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:07

it was a guy beat up

[scott]: 34:09

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:09

his girl from pretty bad and he ran into a house

[scott]: 34:12

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:12

and cut the dog you know cut the dog loose to do the to do to do the house search

[shaun]: 34:18

m

[scott]: 34:18

m

[chris_sherwin]: 34:19

and down the hall there there was like

[shaun]: 34:21

m

[chris_sherwin]: 34:21

three

[scott]: 34:21

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:21

bedrooms on one side and two bedrooms on her and

[shaun]: 34:24

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 34:24

a closet

[shaun]: 34:25

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:25

on the in the end well all of a sudden

[shaun]: 34:28

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:29

we're quiet we're down the hall

[scott]: 34:30

m

[chris_sherwin]: 34:30

and he

[shaun]: 34:30

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 34:31

goes

[scott]: 34:31

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:31

by like three doors

[scott]: 34:33

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:34

and an of a sudden he stops and he

[scott]: 34:36

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:36

turns around and he

[shaun]: 34:38

m

[scott]: 34:38

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:39

he looked at me like

[scott]: 34:40

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:40

i know exactly

[shaun]: 34:41

m

[chris_sherwin]: 34:41

where this guy is and you better

[shaun]: 34:43

he's

[chris_sherwin]: 34:43

open

[shaun]: 34:43

letting

[chris_sherwin]: 34:43

that

[shaun]: 34:44

you

[chris_sherwin]: 34:44

door

[shaun]: 34:44

know

[chris_sherwin]: 34:44

like it was just one of those things like he looked

[shaun]: 34:46

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:46

you right in the

[shaun]: 34:47

that's

[chris_sherwin]: 34:47

eye

[shaun]: 34:47

a partner yeah that's

[scott]: 34:48

yeah

[shaun]: 34:48

a partner

[chris_sherwin]: 34:48

and he

[shaun]: 34:48

right

[chris_sherwin]: 34:48

literally

[shaun]: 34:48

there

[chris_sherwin]: 34:49

and dogs

[shaun]: 34:49

yeah yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:50

and dog

[scott]: 34:50

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:51

don't like to walk backwards he literally

[scott]: 34:52

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:53

walked backwards two

[scott]: 34:54

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:54

doors

[shaun]: 34:55

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 34:55

and made this big

[shaun]: 34:56

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:57

inhale on the

[shaun]: 34:58

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:58

door and

[scott]: 34:58

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 34:58

sat down and he looked right at me and he goes

[william_meyer]: 35:00

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:01

for the love of god come in this door

[shaun]: 35:04

right

[chris_sherwin]: 35:04

so

[shaun]: 35:04

right

[chris_sherwin]: 35:04

i

[shaun]: 35:04

right

[chris_sherwin]: 35:04

come walking up and he's wagging his tail

[shaun]: 35:06

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:07

and

[william_meyer]: 35:07

no

[chris_sherwin]: 35:08

i opened

[william_meyer]: 35:08

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 35:08

the door because a

[william_meyer]: 35:09

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:09

guy

[shaun]: 35:09

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:10

the guy

[shaun]: 35:10

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:10

wasn't responding i

[shaun]: 35:11

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:12

opened the door

[shaun]: 35:12

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:13

he goes in just

[shaun]: 35:15

oh

[scott]: 35:15

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:15

goes crazy in the room and

[shaun]: 35:17

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:18

he goes to the closet sits in front of the closet and he's looking at me like we're going to do this

[william_meyer]: 35:21

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:21

all day another door

[shaun]: 35:23

right

[chris_sherwin]: 35:23

so i'm

[shaun]: 35:23

right

[scott]: 35:24

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:24

like

[shaun]: 35:24

right

[william_meyer]: 35:24

m

[chris_sherwin]: 35:24

okay so i call the gun out and the dog

[scott]: 35:26

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:26

is not barking and the

[scott]: 35:27

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:27

dogs looking at me like open the door i'm calling out the dogs looking at me

[shaun]: 35:31

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:31

so

[scott]: 35:31

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:31

finally

[william_meyer]: 35:32

yeah

[shaun]: 35:32

m

[chris_sherwin]: 35:33

i called the dog back

[shaun]: 35:34

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:35

and

[william_meyer]: 35:35

ye

[chris_sherwin]: 35:36

when i

[william_meyer]: 35:37

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:37

open

[william_meyer]: 35:38

oh

[scott]: 35:38

oh

[shaun]: 35:38

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:38

i sit the dog down and open the door and a guy like he

[shaun]: 35:41

kay

[scott]: 35:42

oh

[shaun]: 35:42

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 35:42

sticks his hand out waving like a peakatcho

[scott]: 35:44

yeah

[shaun]: 35:44

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 35:44

like for the dog to play with like what so but that was

[shaun]: 35:49

there

[chris_sherwin]: 35:49

actually one of my one of my favorite ones who was actually

[shaun]: 35:51

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 35:51

one of my favorite

[scott]: 35:52

we

[chris_sherwin]: 35:52

ones

[shaun]: 35:52

the

[scott]: 35:52

i had a good one with your first dog when the

[william_meyer]: 35:54

oh

[scott]: 35:54

uh that that was

[william_meyer]: 35:56

yeah

[scott]: 35:56

back in my my cool da days but

[chris_sherwin]: 36:00

yeah

[scott]: 36:00

the case

[shaun]: 36:01

oh

[scott]: 36:01

that

[william_meyer]: 36:01

yeah

[scott]: 36:01

you helped me with with the guy with the pickup truck that

[chris_sherwin]: 36:04

yeah

[scott]: 36:04

had like

[shaun]: 36:05

oh yeah

[scott]: 36:05

it was like

[shaun]: 36:06

yeah

[scott]: 36:06

it was

[chris_sherwin]: 36:06

yeah

[scott]: 36:06

like eighteen it was like it was

[shaun]: 36:09

yeah

[scott]: 36:09

several pounds of math and

[chris_sherwin]: 36:10

nineteen

[scott]: 36:10

it was

[shaun]: 36:11

it was

[scott]: 36:11

like

[shaun]: 36:11

the

[chris_sherwin]: 36:11

pounds

[shaun]: 36:11

highest

[chris_sherwin]: 36:11

eh

[shaun]: 36:11

it was the

[scott]: 36:12

yeah

[shaun]: 36:12

highest method because method was not big there at that time it was the

[chris_sherwin]: 36:14

yeah

[shaun]: 36:14

highest if i remember was the highest

[chris_sherwin]: 36:16

at the time

[shaun]: 36:16

weight wise in that county

[scott]: 36:18

m

[chris_sherwin]: 36:19

yeah

[scott]: 36:19

yeah

[shaun]: 36:19

to that

[scott]: 36:19

it was

[shaun]: 36:19

point

[scott]: 36:19

a pretty

[shaun]: 36:19

at

[scott]: 36:19

big

[shaun]: 36:19

least

[scott]: 36:20

hit and so m i remember because

[shaun]: 36:23

yeah

[scott]: 36:23

these guys they had it in a pickup

[william_meyer]: 36:24

yeah

[scott]: 36:24

truck and you know we all thought like

[chris_sherwin]: 36:27

oh

[scott]: 36:27

oh it's you know you always told

[shaun]: 36:29

a trap

[scott]: 36:29

like what drug work

[shaun]: 36:30

yeah

[scott]: 36:30

like

[shaun]: 36:30

yeah yeah

[scott]: 36:30

it's in a trap it's concealed

[shaun]: 36:31

yeah

[scott]: 36:32

somewhere

[shaun]: 36:32

right

[scott]: 36:32

i'm gonna

[shaun]: 36:32

right

[scott]: 36:32

have to take

[shaun]: 36:32

it

[scott]: 36:33

the gas tank out it's in the

[chris_sherwin]: 36:34

yeah

[scott]: 36:34

spare tire

[shaun]: 36:34

yeah

[scott]: 36:34

you

[shaun]: 36:35

i

[scott]: 36:35

know

[shaun]: 36:35

right

[william_meyer]: 36:35

oh

[scott]: 36:35

and

[chris_sherwin]: 36:36

yeah

[scott]: 36:36

this

[shaun]: 36:36

yes

[scott]: 36:37

beater pickup truck

[shaun]: 36:38

yes

[scott]: 36:38

but it had like a mountain of roofing shingles and i think it was roofing

[chris_sherwin]: 36:42

hm

[scott]: 36:42

shingles right with roofing

[shaun]: 36:43

it was

[scott]: 36:43

shingles

[chris_sherwin]: 36:43

rificshe

[shaun]: 36:43

exactly

[scott]: 36:43

in the

[shaun]: 36:43

what

[scott]: 36:43

back

[chris_sherwin]: 36:43

gonna

[shaun]: 36:43

it was

[chris_sherwin]: 36:44

leave a

[shaun]: 36:44

yeah

[scott]: 36:45

so so we like

[shaun]: 36:47

m

[scott]: 36:47

chris actually winds up stopping the car

[chris_sherwin]: 36:50

oh

[scott]: 36:50

and the dog he's like yeah there's there's positive on it and we wind up bringing the truck back

[shaun]: 36:56

yeah

[scott]: 36:57

and i'm thinking okay here now

[william_meyer]: 36:58

m

[scott]: 36:58

we're going to be here for like six hours unloading all this ship

[william_meyer]: 37:02

yeah

[scott]: 37:02

out of this truck and

[shaun]: 37:03

yeah

[scott]: 37:03

i'm going to be pulling glove boxes open and trying to

[william_meyer]: 37:06

oh

[scott]: 37:06

find all this weird stuff

[chris_sherwin]: 37:07

yes

[scott]: 37:07

and i like i don't know

[william_meyer]: 37:08

oh

[scott]: 37:08

like two minutes he's like it's right there under all the shingles

[chris_sherwin]: 37:11

yeah

[scott]: 37:12

in the back

[shaun]: 37:12

thanks

[william_meyer]: 37:12

oh

[scott]: 37:12

and

[shaun]: 37:12

to

[scott]: 37:13

i'm

[shaun]: 37:13

the

[scott]: 37:13

like

[shaun]: 37:13

dog

[chris_sherwin]: 37:14

yeah

[scott]: 37:14

i'm like

[shaun]: 37:14

all got no preconceived notions about what

[scott]: 37:16

i'm

[shaun]: 37:16

i was

[scott]: 37:16

like

[shaun]: 37:16

going to be right

[scott]: 37:16

i'm like seriously and i mean granted there was a there was a mountain of

[chris_sherwin]: 37:20

yeah

[scott]: 37:21

ship it was like shingles and construction stuff in the back obviously there to conceal it but i mean it was like like it's right there okay and so

[shaun]: 37:28

right

[scott]: 37:28

we just

[chris_sherwin]: 37:29

yeah

[scott]: 37:29

no more digging around looking looking underneath

[chris_sherwin]: 37:32

yeah

[scott]: 37:32

you know

[shaun]: 37:32

yeah

[scott]: 37:33

like doing all this stuff

[shaun]: 37:34

oh

[scott]: 37:34

and it's just pipe you know peel everything back and

[shaun]: 37:36

that

[scott]: 37:36

we're dumping it out on the floor and there it is you know what

[chris_sherwin]: 37:39

yeah

[shaun]: 37:39

yeah

[scott]: 37:39

i was like man and then of course we did the standard like pile up all the dope

[chris_sherwin]: 37:43

right

[shaun]: 37:43

yeah

[scott]: 37:43

and put the

[william_meyer]: 37:44

uh

[scott]: 37:44

dog next to it and like

[william_meyer]: 37:45

uh oh

[scott]: 37:46

you know everybody's got to take up ture and i just remember it's funny because

[william_meyer]: 37:49

yeah

[scott]: 37:49

like a couple of people different people were taking pictures of it and it

[shaun]: 37:51

yes

[scott]: 37:51

was almost like sebek was like

[shaun]: 37:53

yeah

[scott]: 37:53

turning to like when you're

[shaun]: 37:54

yeah

[scott]: 37:54

taking pictures

[shaun]: 37:55

which

[chris_sherwin]: 37:55

yeah

[scott]: 37:55

your family

[shaun]: 37:55

which side

[scott]: 37:55

like

[shaun]: 37:55

do you want

[scott]: 37:56

wait

[chris_sherwin]: 37:56

yeah

[scott]: 37:56

wait hold on now

[chris_sherwin]: 37:57

yeah

[scott]: 37:57

we're using my camera now like he's looking

[shaun]: 37:59

yeah

[scott]: 37:59

over here like i'm like

[chris_sherwin]: 38:00

oh

[scott]: 38:00

damn he's one photogenic dog man i still got some good pictures

[shaun]: 38:03

he

[chris_sherwin]: 38:03

oh

[shaun]: 38:03

knew

[scott]: 38:03

of that

[shaun]: 38:04

he

[scott]: 38:04

one

[shaun]: 38:04

was

[scott]: 38:04

just

[chris_sherwin]: 38:04

yeah

[scott]: 38:05

right

[shaun]: 38:05

proud of his work that's

[chris_sherwin]: 38:06

do

[shaun]: 38:06

for sure

[chris_sherwin]: 38:07

you do you also do

[shaun]: 38:08

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 38:08

you also remember that one that remember that we found we had

[shaun]: 38:13

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 38:13

jesus statue mary joseph remember

[shaun]: 38:16

oh

[scott]: 38:17

oh yeah yeah yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 38:17

and the dog hit on those because

[shaun]: 38:19

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 38:19

they were handling

[shaun]: 38:19

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 38:19

them they were trying to like you know cover

[scott]: 38:21

ye

[shaun]: 38:21

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 38:22

you know

[shaun]: 38:22

right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:22

cover their

[william_meyer]: 38:22

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 38:22

stuff like the the religious people

[william_meyer]: 38:23

yeah yeah

[scott]: 38:24

as

[chris_sherwin]: 38:24

and we all got to break these statues right and

[shaun]: 38:26

nobody

[chris_sherwin]: 38:27

we're

[shaun]: 38:27

and

[chris_sherwin]: 38:27

all

[shaun]: 38:27

nobody

[chris_sherwin]: 38:27

looking

[shaun]: 38:27

wants

[chris_sherwin]: 38:27

around

[shaun]: 38:27

to do it we

[chris_sherwin]: 38:28

no

[shaun]: 38:28

were all

[scott]: 38:28

yeah

[shaun]: 38:28

lie we're not

[scott]: 38:28

felt

[shaun]: 38:29

i'm

[scott]: 38:29

bad

[shaun]: 38:29

not doing a right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:30

so we

[shaun]: 38:30

right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:30

did marry with joseph and we

[scott]: 38:31

right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:31

got a picture of a sebectpicture

[shaun]: 38:32

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 38:33

of

[shaun]: 38:34

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 38:34

jesus and all the dope like nobody's going crack this thing so

[shaun]: 38:36

all right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:37

i don't

[shaun]: 38:37

right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:37

remember

[scott]: 38:37

right

[chris_sherwin]: 38:37

when breaking it

[scott]: 38:38

christi the sign of the cross before everyone

[chris_sherwin]: 38:40

yeah

[scott]: 38:40

that he broke open though just to

[shaun]: 38:41

yeah

[william_meyer]: 38:41

oh

[shaun]: 38:41

right

[scott]: 38:42

just

[shaun]: 38:42

right

[scott]: 38:42

to

[shaun]: 38:42

just

[scott]: 38:42

cover himself just in case you know like

[shaun]: 38:44

forgive them father

[william_meyer]: 38:44

oh

[shaun]: 38:45

they know not what they do

[chris_sherwin]: 38:47

right

[scott]: 38:47

right

[shaun]: 38:47

oh

[scott]: 38:47

as he's snapping the s off of the

[chris_sherwin]: 38:49

yeah

[scott]: 38:49

statues yeah

[william_meyer]: 38:51

so with mine it would be now i don't have

[scott]: 38:54

a

[william_meyer]: 38:54

any

[shaun]: 38:54

yes

[william_meyer]: 38:55

ou know i like to think is

[shaun]: 38:58

yeah

[william_meyer]: 38:58

in flint we used to just talk like we were on street corner so it's it's always busting each other's

[shaun]: 39:01

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:01

balls

[chris_sherwin]: 39:02

oh

[shaun]: 39:02

oh

[scott]: 39:02

right

[william_meyer]: 39:02

so

[shaun]: 39:03

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:03

this one was this was our favorite this

[chris_sherwin]: 39:05

m

[william_meyer]: 39:05

sergeant

[scott]: 39:06

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:06

of

[shaun]: 39:06

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:06

ours that

[scott]: 39:07

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:07

had a mama

[chris_sherwin]: 39:08

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:09

and

[shaun]: 39:09

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 39:09

no

[william_meyer]: 39:10

very good drug dog

[shaun]: 39:11

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:11

for

[scott]: 39:11

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:11

a long time

[shaun]: 39:12

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:13

but sometimes dogs need to retire

[shaun]: 39:15

uh

[william_meyer]: 39:15

and

[chris_sherwin]: 39:16

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:16

she was now

[shaun]: 39:17

h right

[william_meyer]: 39:18

my buddy was not ready to retire his dog so

[scott]: 39:21

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:21

we were sitting

[shaun]: 39:21

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:22

on some dude he was dropping off he used

[shaun]: 39:23

yes

[william_meyer]: 39:24

cabs

[chris_sherwin]: 39:24

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:24

to drop off he was dropping

[chris_sherwin]: 39:25

yeah

[shaun]: 39:25

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:25

off a few ounces here and there

[shaun]: 39:27

o

[scott]: 39:27

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:27

he got

[shaun]: 39:27

it

[william_meyer]: 39:27

stopped getting

[chris_sherwin]: 39:28

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:28

walking up to a crib and

[shaun]: 39:29

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:29

he had two ounces on him with crack

[shaun]: 39:31

yes

[william_meyer]: 39:31

so

[shaun]: 39:31

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:32

they called us and said hey

[shaun]: 39:33

yes

[william_meyer]: 39:33

go sit on his house

[chris_sherwin]: 39:34

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:35

so

[scott]: 39:35

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:35

we went over there

[shaun]: 39:36

yes

[william_meyer]: 39:36

and we're sitting watching his house

[chris_sherwin]: 39:37

m

[shaun]: 39:37

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:38

about three of

[shaun]: 39:38

yes

[william_meyer]: 39:38

us

[chris_sherwin]: 39:38

oh

[scott]: 39:39

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:39

three different

[shaun]: 39:40

oh

[scott]: 39:40

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:40

cars and so just waiting while there's car pulls in his driveway

[scott]: 39:43

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:44

and

[chris_sherwin]: 39:44

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:45

big old fat dude walks into the back yard he had to be

[shaun]: 39:48

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:48

like four hundred pounds huge huge dude

[shaun]: 39:50

ah

[william_meyer]: 39:51

walks in the back yard by by

[scott]: 39:52

yeah

[william_meyer]: 39:52

a detached garage and he's kind of messing around back there and it was late at night it was probably about midnight

[shaun]: 39:56

oh

[scott]: 39:56

oh

[william_meyer]: 39:56

or something so i couldn't really see but could

[scott]: 39:59

h

[william_meyer]: 39:59

see him walking

[chris_sherwin]: 39:59

yeah

[shaun]: 39:59

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:00

because he was such a huge dude and so he walks back there and

[chris_sherwin]: 40:03

m

[william_meyer]: 40:03

gets into

[shaun]: 40:04

yes

[william_meyer]: 40:04

the car and the passenger

[shaun]: 40:05

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:05

seat and they

[shaun]: 40:05

oh

[scott]: 40:05

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:05

take off so we're like all right cool so we get behind him

[scott]: 40:09

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:09

you know

[shaun]: 40:10

m

[william_meyer]: 40:10

we always

[shaun]: 40:10

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:10

had a little blue light we just put the blue light on him and

[shaun]: 40:12

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:12

he pulled over luckily

[shaun]: 40:14

oh

[scott]: 40:14

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:14

so he pulls

[shaun]: 40:15

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:15

over

[chris_sherwin]: 40:15

ah

[william_meyer]: 40:15

my buddy with the with his canine his drug dog they

[chris_sherwin]: 40:19

m

[shaun]: 40:19

m

[scott]: 40:20

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:21

he

[scott]: 40:21

ah

[william_meyer]: 40:21

starts running

[chris_sherwin]: 40:21

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:21

him around the car and of course he hit

[chris_sherwin]: 40:24

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:24

well the big fat dude is he's holding a duncan doughnuts

[shaun]: 40:27

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:27

box

[chris_sherwin]: 40:28

oh

[shaun]: 40:28

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 40:28

no

[william_meyer]: 40:28

pretty good sized box

[shaun]: 40:29

right

[william_meyer]: 40:29

and it's sitting in his

[shaun]: 40:30

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:30

lap

[chris_sherwin]: 40:30

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:30

so i opened

[shaun]: 40:31

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:31

the door said is that your and he's

[scott]: 40:32

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:33

like no man it's not mine

[scott]: 40:33

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 40:34

ah

[william_meyer]: 40:34

i said it's in your lap

[scott]: 40:36

uh

[william_meyer]: 40:36

man of course

[shaun]: 40:36

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:36

it's yours because no dude this ain't mine i don't

[scott]: 40:38

h

[william_meyer]: 40:38

know

[chris_sherwin]: 40:38

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:38

whose it is

[shaun]: 40:39

oh

[scott]: 40:39

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:39

i'm like whatever so i told him to get out he left the box on the on the

[shaun]: 40:43

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:44

the path youse got the

[shaun]: 40:45

yes

[william_meyer]: 40:45

drive her out

[chris_sherwin]: 40:46

ye

[william_meyer]: 40:46

so my buddy i don't want to say his name

[shaun]: 40:48

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:48

but my buddy

[chris_sherwin]: 40:49

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:49

he's a sergeant and he starts running

[scott]: 40:51

m

[william_meyer]: 40:51

running the dog and i'm wanting to say the dog's name

[scott]: 40:53

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 40:53

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:54

running the dog around and of

[scott]: 40:55

oh

[chris_sherwin]: 40:55

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:55

course

[shaun]: 40:55

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:55

he alerts so

[shaun]: 40:57

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:57

you know

[chris_sherwin]: 40:57

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:57

gets

[shaun]: 40:58

yeah

[william_meyer]: 40:58

in

[scott]: 40:58

oh

[william_meyer]: 40:58

gets in through the drivers side and he's alert

[shaun]: 41:00

yes

[william_meyer]: 41:00

so

[scott]: 41:00

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:01

my buddy and like i said this dog was ready to retire

[shaun]: 41:02

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:03

but

[chris_sherwin]: 41:03

m

[william_meyer]: 41:03

he kept pointing saying here

[shaun]: 41:06

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:06

here telling the dog to sniff

[chris_sherwin]: 41:08

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:08

the duncan donuts box

[shaun]: 41:10

eh

[william_meyer]: 41:10

so

[scott]: 41:10

yeah

[shaun]: 41:11

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:11

he kept

[chris_sherwin]: 41:12

m

[william_meyer]: 41:12

smelling the ashtray which i'm sure had some you know

[scott]: 41:15

yeah

[shaun]: 41:15

yes

[chris_sherwin]: 41:15

weed

[william_meyer]: 41:15

some

[chris_sherwin]: 41:15

in or something

[william_meyer]: 41:15

you know smoked

[scott]: 41:16

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:16

weed in a

[shaun]: 41:17

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:17

ship

[shaun]: 41:17

right

[scott]: 41:17

right

[william_meyer]: 41:17

like

[chris_sherwin]: 41:17

m

[william_meyer]: 41:17

that so

[chris_sherwin]: 41:18

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:18

then he would go no here here would

[scott]: 41:21

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:21

look at it

[chris_sherwin]: 41:21

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:21

and then go right

[chris_sherwin]: 41:22

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:22

back to the to the

[shaun]: 41:23

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:23

ash tray and we're laughing our asses off because we know

[shaun]: 41:26

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:26

something s in there we had no idea what was in there but

[scott]: 41:29

right

[william_meyer]: 41:29

we knew something was in there

[chris_sherwin]: 41:30

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:30

so he kept saying here here so they don't looked at it once he

[chris_sherwin]: 41:33

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:33

goes

[shaun]: 41:33

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:34

that's an alert

[scott]: 41:35

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:35

he said take a

[chris_sherwin]: 41:35

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:35

picture

[shaun]: 41:36

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:36

and i'm like it was that was no fucking alert

[scott]: 41:40

take a picture

[william_meyer]: 41:40

the dog barely fucking looked

[chris_sherwin]: 41:42

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:42

at it

[shaun]: 41:42

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:43

so i'm like all

[shaun]: 41:43

yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:43

right so he pulled the dog out

[shaun]: 41:45

ah

[william_meyer]: 41:45

open

[chris_sherwin]: 41:45

m

[william_meyer]: 41:45

the box and it's a fucking kilo coke

[shaun]: 41:47

oh

[scott]: 41:48

oh

[william_meyer]: 41:48

and i'm like you got to be uckinggenemy

[chris_sherwin]: 41:50

yeah

[shaun]: 41:50

uh

[william_meyer]: 41:51

that dog

[shaun]: 41:51

uh

[william_meyer]: 41:51

was rather

[scott]: 41:52

h yeah

[william_meyer]: 41:52

find a fucking a roach

[chris_sherwin]: 41:54

uh

[shaun]: 41:54

that a

[william_meyer]: 41:54

in the ash tray then a fucking kilo

[shaun]: 41:56

powder that

[william_meyer]: 41:57

and he's like and he took a picture put it

[chris_sherwin]: 41:58

yah

[william_meyer]: 41:58

in his little you know

[shaun]: 41:59

a

[william_meyer]: 41:59

he had

[scott]: 41:59

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:00

a big

[scott]: 42:00

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:00

portfolio

[scott]: 42:00

right

[shaun]: 42:00

agydasright

[chris_sherwin]: 42:01

h yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:02

oh

[shaun]: 42:02

right

[william_meyer]: 42:02

my god

[shaun]: 42:02

awesome

[william_meyer]: 42:03

it was the funniest

[shaun]: 42:04

ah

[william_meyer]: 42:04

than thing and if he hears this i'm sure

[shaun]: 42:06

yes

[william_meyer]: 42:06

you'll

[scott]: 42:06

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:06

call

[chris_sherwin]: 42:06

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:06

me and yell at

[shaun]: 42:07

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:07

me but

[shaun]: 42:07

right

[chris_sherwin]: 42:07

that's

[shaun]: 42:07

right

[chris_sherwin]: 42:08

awesome

[william_meyer]: 42:08

we made fun of

[shaun]: 42:09

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:09

him

[chris_sherwin]: 42:09

yes

[william_meyer]: 42:09

for years about that that was the funniest thing i've ever seen

[chris_sherwin]: 42:12

that's awesome

[shaun]: 42:13

that's

[william_meyer]: 42:13

but

[scott]: 42:14

well

[shaun]: 42:14

well

[scott]: 42:14

one of the other things that we used to do too that was always funny was what

[william_meyer]: 42:18

uh

[scott]: 42:19

we would do with with

[william_meyer]: 42:20

m

[scott]: 42:20

with money

[william_meyer]: 42:21

ye

[scott]: 42:21

that we we wanted

[chris_sherwin]: 42:22

yes

[scott]: 42:22

to like we'd recover money from

[william_meyer]: 42:24

right

[scott]: 42:24

drug

[shaun]: 42:24

yeah

[scott]: 42:24

dealers and we

[chris_sherwin]: 42:26

m

[scott]: 42:26

would

[chris_sherwin]: 42:27

m

[scott]: 42:27

take the money and put it in bags and then chris you got to give like the official way that we did it but you know ht'metalking

[chris_sherwin]: 42:33

blind

[scott]: 42:33

about

[chris_sherwin]: 42:33

sniff

[scott]: 42:33

like put yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 42:34

blind

[scott]: 42:34

like

[chris_sherwin]: 42:35

sniff

[scott]: 42:35

putting it in so we put it in

[chris_sherwin]: 42:36

m

[scott]: 42:36

like

[shaun]: 42:36

m

[scott]: 42:37

the paper

[shaun]: 42:37

ye

[scott]: 42:37

evidence bags

[shaun]: 42:38

yeah

[scott]: 42:38

and then we would either

[shaun]: 42:40

yes

[scott]: 42:40

spread him out or you know put them around like

[shaun]: 42:42

yeah

[chris_sherwin]: 42:43

oh

[scott]: 42:43

wherever

[shaun]: 42:44

it was basically

[scott]: 42:44

and then

[shaun]: 42:44

a shell

[chris_sherwin]: 42:45

m

[shaun]: 42:45

game for a dog

[chris_sherwin]: 42:46

right

[scott]: 42:46

right right

[william_meyer]: 42:47

right

[scott]: 42:47

and then

[william_meyer]: 42:47

we used to do it all the

[scott]: 42:48

yeah

[william_meyer]: 42:48

time with that one

[scott]: 42:49

and

[shaun]: 42:49

oh

[scott]: 42:49

so so crisis

[william_meyer]: 42:50

oh

[scott]: 42:50

dog

[chris_sherwin]: 42:51

m

[scott]: 42:51

it was

[chris_sherwin]: 42:51

oh

[scott]: 42:51

just i don't know why i found it so funny every time but it's like obviously we all know which bag the money is in and you see him he just kind like he'd go

[shaun]: 42:59

oh

[scott]: 42:59

by you know the bags and he'd

[shaun]: 43:01

yes

[scott]: 43:01

give it a glance and maybe just you'd see him take a quick breath in and then like as soon as he hit

[chris_sherwin]: 43:06

m

[scott]: 43:06

the one that had

[chris_sherwin]: 43:07

ah

[scott]: 43:07

the money he would

[chris_sherwin]: 43:09

what

[scott]: 43:09

just go fucking crazy

[chris_sherwin]: 43:10

yeah

[scott]: 43:11

and like

[william_meyer]: 43:11

yeah

[scott]: 43:11

start shredding the bag

[chris_sherwin]: 43:12

yeah

[scott]: 43:13

you know and

[shaun]: 43:13

right right

[scott]: 43:14

be

[shaun]: 43:14

right

[scott]: 43:14

like all right yeah i think

[william_meyer]: 43:16

oh

[scott]: 43:16

that is that good chris

[shaun]: 43:17

there

[chris_sherwin]: 43:17

yeah

[scott]: 43:17

get that

[shaun]: 43:17

is that

[scott]: 43:17

and

[shaun]: 43:18

an

[scott]: 43:18

then

[shaun]: 43:18

indication

[william_meyer]: 43:18

yeah

[shaun]: 43:18

is that thing

[scott]: 43:19

and then he would always

[chris_sherwin]: 43:21

m

[scott]: 43:21

and he's literally like spitting pieces of

[shaun]: 43:23

yahmtythe

[scott]: 43:23

paper

[chris_sherwin]: 43:23

yeah

[scott]: 43:23

out of his mouth you're like hold on stop him so he doesn't

[chris_sherwin]: 43:26

oh

[scott]: 43:26

eat the money

[shaun]: 43:27

money

[scott]: 43:27

like

[william_meyer]: 43:27

right

[chris_sherwin]: 43:27

ah

[scott]: 43:27

just where

[william_meyer]: 43:28

right

[scott]: 43:28

yeah just like we need

[shaun]: 43:29

yeah

[scott]: 43:29

the money i'm not worried about the bag but and then you would you'd always submit the bag right you submit the bags that

[shaun]: 43:35

yes

[scott]: 43:35

you put it in or something right wasn't

[chris_sherwin]: 43:37

yep

[scott]: 43:37

that part of it

[chris_sherwin]: 43:38

m

[shaun]: 43:38

yeah

[scott]: 43:38

and so i

[chris_sherwin]: 43:38

m

[scott]: 43:38

always just again would laugh my ass off like

[chris_sherwin]: 43:40

ah

[scott]: 43:41

we're putting we're doing all the evidence on this

[shaun]: 43:42

yeah

[scott]: 43:42

case and it's like here's this

[chris_sherwin]: 43:44

oh

[scott]: 43:44

bag this bag this bag and then this bag that

[shaun]: 43:46

i

[chris_sherwin]: 43:46

yeah

[scott]: 43:46

looks like

[shaun]: 43:48

right right

[scott]: 43:48

that looks

[william_meyer]: 43:49

shrouded

[scott]: 43:49

like i just took it

[chris_sherwin]: 43:50

oh

[shaun]: 43:50

yeah

[scott]: 43:50

like i ran it literally like through

[chris_sherwin]: 43:52

h

[scott]: 43:52

the shreder

[chris_sherwin]: 43:52

uh

[shaun]: 43:52

yeah

[scott]: 43:52

and just scooped

[william_meyer]: 43:53

oh

[scott]: 43:53

up the paper

[william_meyer]: 43:53

uh

[scott]: 43:54

after

[chris_sherwin]: 43:54

uh

[shaun]: 43:55

but oddly

[scott]: 43:55

and they're

[shaun]: 43:55

enough

[scott]: 43:55

still

[shaun]: 43:55

his

[scott]: 43:55

like

[chris_sherwin]: 43:56

oh

[scott]: 43:56

it's all

[william_meyer]: 43:57

ah

[scott]: 43:57

wet like did you want

[shaun]: 43:59

oddly enough

[scott]: 43:59

still

[shaun]: 43:59

chris bean you know rich uncle chris the dog was actually indicating on the money

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right

[shaun]: 44:04

for chris

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right

[shaun]: 44:05

like or

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right

[shaun]: 44:06

the

[chris_sherwin]: 44:06

not as wallet

[shaun]: 44:07

i'm gonna take

[scott]: 44:07

right

[chris_sherwin]: 44:07

find

[shaun]: 44:07

this

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a dope

[shaun]: 44:07

yeah right

[scott]: 44:08

it

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not

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right

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as

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right

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wallet

[shaun]: 44:08

right

[chris_sherwin]: 44:08

find a dope

[william_meyer]: 44:10

yah

[shaun]: 44:10

that dog could get a job at king reservation

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h

[scott]: 44:12

yeah

[william_meyer]: 44:12

oh

[shaun]: 44:12

you know because he'd be up

[chris_sherwin]: 44:13

oh

[shaun]: 44:13

at a casino you know you know

[scott]: 44:15

okay

[shaun]: 44:16

what are you

[chris_sherwin]: 44:16

might

[william_meyer]: 44:16

yeah

[shaun]: 44:16

doing

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be

[shaun]: 44:16

with

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playing

[shaun]: 44:16

his money

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instead

[shaun]: 44:17

you know

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of

[shaun]: 44:17

what

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collecting

[shaun]: 44:17

i mean right

[william_meyer]: 44:18

right

[shaun]: 44:18

exactly

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right

[chris_sherwin]: 44:20

oh

[shaun]: 44:20

well appreciate

[chris_sherwin]: 44:21

man

[shaun]: 44:21

you coming

[scott]: 44:21

yeah

[shaun]: 44:21

out again and talk

[chris_sherwin]: 44:22

thanks

[shaun]: 44:22

with us hopefully

[chris_sherwin]: 44:22

i appreciate

[shaun]: 44:22

we can help

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it

[shaun]: 44:23

you with this and

[william_meyer]: 44:23

thank

[shaun]: 44:24

we'll

[william_meyer]: 44:24

you for having me i really

[shaun]: 44:24

have

[william_meyer]: 44:25

appreciate

[shaun]: 44:25

this

[william_meyer]: 44:25

it

[shaun]: 44:25

far

[chris_sherwin]: 44:26

yeah

[shaun]: 44:26

and wide on the show we'll

[scott]: 44:27

yeah

[shaun]: 44:27

blow this up on social media as well

[scott]: 44:28

oh

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as

[chris_sherwin]: 44:29

yep

[shaun]: 44:29

through

[william_meyer]: 44:29

great

[shaun]: 44:29

our page and anybody that's a listener and been on before if you're listening to us please

[chris_sherwin]: 44:33

oh

[shaun]: 44:33

consider a little bit of money you get a pretty

[scott]: 44:35

ah

[shaun]: 44:35

cool shirt you can you know you're down there

[scott]: 44:37

i

[shaun]: 44:37

in new

[scott]: 44:37

want

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zealand

[scott]: 44:37

a coffee mug

[shaun]: 44:38

yeah

[scott]: 44:38

i'm getting a

[chris_sherwin]: 44:39

right

[scott]: 44:39

coffee

[shaun]: 44:39

i'm

[scott]: 44:39

mug

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i'm

[scott]: 44:39

so

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gonna

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put

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get

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me

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i'm

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down

[shaun]: 44:40

gonna

[william_meyer]: 44:40

pretty

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for

[shaun]: 44:40

get the

[scott]: 44:40

a

[william_meyer]: 44:40

cool

[scott]: 44:40

coffee

[shaun]: 44:40

shirt

[william_meyer]: 44:40

they're

[scott]: 44:40

mug

[william_meyer]: 44:40

really

[shaun]: 44:41

shirts

[william_meyer]: 44:41

cool

[shaun]: 44:41

cool but you know represent for flint world wide

[scott]: 44:43

yeah

[shaun]: 44:44

those guys again like i said we can't say enough think about those folks

[chris_sherwin]: 44:46

oh

[shaun]: 44:46

up there men and women

[scott]: 44:47

oh

[shaun]: 44:47

are doing a job that

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oh

[shaun]: 44:48

is thankless and

[scott]: 44:50

m

[shaun]: 44:50

you know it's you know you can watch

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and

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if

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just

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you

[scott]: 44:52

yeah

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don't

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to let

[shaun]: 44:52

believe

[william_meyer]: 44:52

you know where we are not number

[scott]: 44:54

m

[william_meyer]: 44:54

one in the nation anymore

[scott]: 44:55

oh

[william_meyer]: 44:55

for poverty were actually number two

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there

[william_meyer]: 44:57

and

[shaun]: 44:57

there

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you

[william_meyer]: 44:57

then

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you

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go

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go

[william_meyer]: 44:57

detroit

[scott]: 44:58

uh

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there

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see

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you

[william_meyer]: 44:58

three

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go there

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so

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pin

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you

[william_meyer]: 44:58

we're

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go

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on up

[william_meyer]: 44:59

we're doing we're doing better

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moving

[shaun]: 45:00

right there

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on

[william_meyer]: 45:01

forty

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you

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up

[scott]: 45:01

ah

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go

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percent poverty

[scott]: 45:01

you're getting

[william_meyer]: 45:02

so

[scott]: 45:02

there you're

[william_meyer]: 45:02

we're

[scott]: 45:02

getting

[william_meyer]: 45:03

trying

[scott]: 45:03

there

[william_meyer]: 45:03

trying to get

[scott]: 45:03

getting

[william_meyer]: 45:03

down

[scott]: 45:04

there

[william_meyer]: 45:04

to twenty per cent

[shaun]: 45:04

yeah hopefully

[chris_sherwin]: 45:05

might

[scott]: 45:05

man

[chris_sherwin]: 45:05

not

[shaun]: 45:05

we can

[william_meyer]: 45:05

yeah

[shaun]: 45:05

help out with that as well so

[chris_sherwin]: 45:06

right

[shaun]: 45:07

chris

[chris_sherwin]: 45:07

well

[shaun]: 45:07

nickson

[william_meyer]: 45:07

yeah

[shaun]: 45:07

buddy

[scott]: 45:07

ah

[chris_sherwin]: 45:08

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[william_meyer]: 45:13

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[shaun]: 45:15

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[shaun]: 45:20

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[scott]: 45:24

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[shaun]: 45:27

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[chris_sherwin]: 45:28

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[shaun]: 45:38

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[chris_sherwin]: 45:38

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[shaun]: 45:40

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yep

[william_meyer]: 45:41

ah later